2010 Municipal Election

The October 25 2010 municipal election is just a couple of months away. Let's use this forum to discuss any issues, especially local ones, that might come up in the election.

With incumbent mayor David Miller stepping aside, the mayoral race should be interesting. Our current councillor, Adam Giambrone, is not running again. This leaves the local Ward 18 Davenport seat up for grabs.

The current list of candidates for Ward 18 (As of August 28 2010) consists of:

The complete up-to-date list is maintained on the City's website:
http://app.toronto.ca/vote2010/findByName.do?lastName=all

If you know of any links to other candidates' websites, please post them here.

What are your thoughts?

Ward 18 Election Events, etc.:

blogTO Interview with Giambrone

BlogTO has a short but interesting interview with Councillor Giambrone today http://www.blogto.com/people/2009/10/toronto_through_the_eyes_of_adam_gi.... He makes it clear that he is considering a run for Mayor. It would be a shame to loose him as a councillor in what will almost certainly be a tough race for Mayor.

Giambrone to announce he's running for mayor?

In today's 24 Hours, Thien Nuynh has an article / interview with Adam Giambrone. Here's a quote from the end of the article:

I try to catch him off guard: "Will you run for mayor?"

"I've made my decision and I'm putting together my campaign team. I expect to make a formal announcement in the next few weeks."

You can read the 24 Hours paper online in a very annoying full-page view format. This article is on page 4.

Giambrone to announce on Feb 1st.

According to Torontoist, Adam Giambrone will announce he's running for mayor on February 1st. The invitation doesn't specifically say he's running for mayor, but that's where all the recent speculation seems to point to.

Not to Gossip but...

Anyone else have any further information on Giambrone's "indiscression"?

You can get all the gossip

You can get all the gossip from the Star in this article......Bad timing for poor Adam

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/762532--adam-...

Giambrone is out. Who's next?

Well, now it's official as Adam Giambrone filed his papers to run for mayor today.

That means we'll have a new councillor in Ward 18. Who will it be?

So far, there are three people registered to run in this ward:

  • Bailão, Ana
  • Le, Nha
  • Wood, Ken

Any comments?

Peter Feriera ? Although he

Peter Feriera ? Although he doesnt live in the area.

Couch for sale!

I hear there's one going really cheap at city hall.

Knowing Jack he would rather

Knowing Jack he would rather do what he is doing and keep polititions honest then run for office. He has been ask many times and he always has said "NO". What signs or poster are you talking about?

Election rumours

I have a feeling that the run up to this year's election will be a hot one at all levels, from mayor, to councillor, and right down to trustee.

Last night there was an unsigned rumour posted here about someone running for trustee, which spawned some responses from that perspective candidate. It turned nasty rather quickly.

Let's keep in mind that rumours are rumours. If you have information to share, make sure it's verifiable, especially when it concerns a person. Keep responses civil too.

Here's a reminder to read the Code of Conduct before posting.

Ward 18 Candidates' websites

I updated the first post in this thread with links to all of the ward 18 candidates that I can find so far. If you know of any others, please post here.

Kevin Beaulieu to run in Ward 18?

The Star is reporting that Kevin Beaulieu, Adam Giambrone's executive assistant, may be gearing up to run for council in Ward 18. Adam Giambrone is apparently (though not surprisingly) taking a break from politics.

Details here:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/794264--giamb...

Chris Gallop would be the better choice, IMO

I've never seen or personally met Kevin B. See what happens come this fall. Whoever it is - I just want them to be present and involved in Ward 18 issues.

Ranajit

Future Councilor

I agree with you Ranajit, in terms of having a councilor that is "present and involved". I would like to add, I hope we elect a person that is also fair minded and not cow-towed by the loudest voices, but is willing to hear both sides of any given issue and can decide what is best for the majority in long term NOT short term. Moreover, I would hope this person is knowledgeable about the changing philosophies and research of urban living in the 21st century.

Chris Gallop

Chris Gallop

Bio:
Chris Gallop [ cgallop@toronto.ca ]
Special Assistant: Works, Development and Constituency Matters
Chris joined the Giambrone team in 2005 after completing his studies in politics, sociology, and philosophy at the University of Toronto. He is a fluent French speaker. A lifelong downtown Toronto resident, Chris is very familiar with the city and the issues downtown residents face. He is particularly interested in environmental issues and finding creative solutions to the challenge posed by climate change and other environmental problems. He participates regularly in many community groups and community building activities in Ward 18 and elsewhere in the city.

Not much I can find on Kevin Beaulieu, this is from 2007 (bit of irony in there - lol):
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/article765489.ece

Thanks,
Ranajit

Convincing

Hey Ranajit,

Perhaps you can convince Chris is run for our Councilor or start a petition asking him to run. :-)

I'll ask him

I'll ask him directly "why not you?"
Does he lack the experience? I'd like to know.

Only thing I know is that he is a face which im use to seeing in Community meetings. Last time I saw Gibroney, was like in 05' or 06'. Thats no good, we need better.

Its bad enuff that Tony Rup.... is invisible. We dont need the same from our City councilor. We deserve better!

Chris: Im sending you this thread bud. Think about us dude!

Ranajit

Chris Gallop is not only a

Chris Gallop is not only a handsome man but a hard working caring guy who certainly done a lot of legwork in JT. I hope he stays in the picture regardless of what happens. Kevin was involved in JT during Adams first term and Anna...Anna...? I think the last time I saw her in JT was 7 years ago.

Torontoist interviews with Beaulieu and Bailão

Torontoist just posted an interview with Kevin Beaulieu:
http://torontoist.com/2010/04/kevin_beaulieu_to_run_for_council_in_ward_...

Apparently they will also have an interview with Ana Bailão soon too.

Ana Bailão interview

...and here is Torontoist's interview with Ana Bailão:
http://torontoist.com/2010/04/meet_the_candidate_ana_bailao_ward_18_dave...

Tentative date for All Candidates Debate for Ward18/Davenport

A date to keep in mind. All Candidates Debate for Tuesday, May 18, 2010 from 7:00PM-9:00PM. This is only a tentative date, waiting to hear back from candidates Jack Triolo and now Kevin Beaulieu. Already heard back from Ana, Hema, Ken and Nha, they all confirmed. I also would like to do a Mayor Candidates Debate in the hood. Have been in contact with 6 of the Mayor Candidates. Trying to coordinate a date. Will send flyer out once I hear back from Jack and kevin. JF

The blessing and curse of running to replace Adam Giambrone

In today's Globe & Mail:

Monday, April 19, 2010 12:43 PM
The blessing and curse of running to replace Adam Giambrone
Kelly Grant

It hasn’t exactly been a smooth start to the campaign for Kevin Beaulieu, loyal lieutenant to TTC chair Adam Giambrone and now candidate for Ward 18 Davenport.

Complete article on The Globe's website.

Frank de Jong now running in Ward 18

Just checked the official list again today and noticed that Frank de Jong is now registered to run in Ward 18.

Vic, do you need an updated flyer or can you add him on your end

Hey Vic, Thanks for the update. I just spoke with Frank. Funny, I was calling frank and he was just going to call me. Do you need me to resend you a revised flyer or can you just add him yourself on your end.

FYI, I have made some progress with Interpreters from different associations. Jack

Interpreters

That's great, Jack. It is always better to include as many people as possible. Thanks for the update.

Flyer updated

Jack,

I just added the name myself and updated the flyer/site.

-Vic

Two more for Ward 18

Kevin Beaulieu is now officially registered, and another name showed up on the list today: Kirk Russell.

Eight candidates. Getting crowded!

Another one in Ward 18

Our ward is getting crowded with candidates. Now nine in total, with Doug Carroll being the latest to jump into the fray.

Only Ward 27, Toronto Centre-Rosedale has more candidates (13), and Ward 19, Trinity-Spadina also has 9.

Should be interesting to see how this goes...although I imagine the debates / meetings will be a bit more difficult to keep focused and interesting.

Democracy Cafe: The Price of Democracy

Start Time: Tomorrow, May 31 at 6:30pm
End Time: Tomorrow, May 31 at 8:30pm
Where: Koffler House,569 Spadina Avenue, RoomKP108

I don't know if anyone would be interested. These are the people who were involved in the 'Prorogue' discussions. The message I got was sent yesterday, so it's a last minute organizing job, but it might be an interesting conversation.

10 Candidates in Ward 18

So, we're up to 10 candidates now, with Joe MacDonald being the latest one to be added to the official list.

I'm inclined to say, "Enough already!"

Personally, I think we actually have a few good choices on the roster now, and plenty of filler.

At the risk of offending

At the risk of offending friends our candidate list for ward 18 is pretty mediocre considering all the talented people in the ward. Half of them are retreads and those that have a compulsion to run every time. I was hoping that somebody with a higher profile and broader vision would emerge. Not likely.

Mayoral Deabte in Ward18/Davenport

Posting this for Jack Fava:

Hello All, Last week I sent out an email informing everyone about a possible Mayoral Debate in Ward18 on Monday, September 13, 2010 between 7:00PM - 9:00PM . I also mention that I am looking for feed back and input from individuals and groups with-in the ward. Well last night at the Dig In meeting I had a chance to speak about the debate and mentioned who the moderator would be. It was also suggested that we would only allow the 6 main mayoral contenders to debate, unless we have a mayoral candidate who is running in the Ward18 then we would allow he or she to participate. I also went ahead and asked the moderator Sue-Ann Levy what style of debate would she like or feel comfortable doing and so she responded, see her response in blue, scroll below.

So between now and September I will be looking for your responses as to what issues we should be putting forward to the candidates. You can email this to my email address at favagj@hotmail.com I will then pass this on to the moderator and then select four questions to present to the candidates for debate. Following that we will then open up the floor for Q&A.

Lastly, once we have confirmation from the permits department at TDSB and with the help of the Trustee Maria Rodrigues on the venue either at Kent or Bloor School we will then ask that you post the debate on your website and mention to others. This will help with the cost of posters and flyers, keeping in mind that this is all volunteer work with 0 dollars. Any money spent is coming from volunteers pocket.

I like to finish by saying how importnat it is to have ward18 in the fore front. This community is going through many changes and issues e.g. development, bike lanes vs no bikes lanes, parking, small business, crime and the new rails and electric train issue and so on. So we need to bring this issues out and in the open. Thank Jack Fava

"I prefer the question format rather than a free-for-all.
I would recommend starting with four questions on the same number of priority issues, then move to a general debate"

Cheers,
Sue-Ann Levy
City Hall Columnist
Toronto Sun

Poor choice of moderator

I'm sure that this mayoral debate will be overall well-run, much like the Ward 18 all-candidates' debate.

However, in my opinion, I think that choosing Sue-Ann Levy as the moderator is an extremely poor choice.

A debate moderator should have a somewhat neutral and fair position, or at the very least hide it well. :) Instead we have someone who has been writing recent newspaper columns bashing certain mayoral candidates, and promoting others. She has a very long history of partisan politics, and even ran in the St. Paul's riding provincial by-election last year. The newspaper that she works for is most certainly backing one particular candidate.

And now it sounds like this extremely biased columnist will not only moderate our local debate, but also be involved in choosing the top four questions?

This sounds like way too much of an opportunity for a non- Ward 18 resident to influence how our local mayoral debate will run.

Sue-Ann Levy is not acceptable as Moderator

I don't want to resort to name calling (that's Sue-Ann Levy's job) but Sue-Ann Levy as a moderator is a terrible choice because she is one of the most partisan right wingers in the City. I honestly don't know how the candidates would feel with her as a moderator but I cannot imagine they would be happy having a Rob Ford supporter as the moderator. I am surprised that she was even considered.

We need somebody who comes to the table with a cleaner slate and somebody who actually knows the issues in Ward 18. In fact if you read anything about Sue-Ann Levy she is opposed to most things that are popular in Ward 18. You cant call for inclusion and fairness and then have somebody like her be a moderator.

I call for a Ward 18 person who knows the issues and is un-biased (at least compared to Sue-Ann Levy) to be chosen instead.

Hardly an objective moderator

I understand it can be challenging to find a skilled and high-profile moderator, but Sue-Ann Levy is far from objective. I don't think anyone who makes their living making up childish names for elected officials is an appropriate choice for moderator. Perhaps if the organization of these events wasn't a one-man show some of these issues would be identified before the wheels were set in motion.

Eli Malinsky would be a

Eli Malinsky would be a better a choice, he lives in the ward, know many of the pressing issues, and has experience as a moderator.

I agree

Eli would be great and I also think Donna Cowan or Richard Mongiat would make good moderators too. They do a great job at DigIn.

new moderator

Seems like an overwhelming response that the moderator is the wrong choice. There's still time to come up with someone who will help make the event a success rather than steer it in the wrong direction.

Call The Candidates

Somebody should call the candidates and make sure they know that this partisan who has raked a few of them over the coals in the paper is the "moderator".

Donna or Richard are another 2 excellent choices who know the issues.

Why Sue-Ann Levy?

Writing provocative editorials might be good for newspaper sales, but it would make a debate such a mockery that I would be surprised if any of the candidates would agree to come.
What was the reasoning behind this choice? Why was there no discussion about finding an appropriate moderator?

Who on Earth??

I may be a bit behind on this forum with regard to who will be moderating the event. I would like to know one thing ... who on Earth suggested Sue-Anne Levy for this and how did her name get this far in the process????? This woman is the antithisis of objective and would really make a mockery of the debate. How did it get this far. It is however sometimes good to know what the enemy is up to no?

You'll have to talk with Jack

You'll have to talk with Jack Fava about that. There was no process. No consultation, no democracy. Of course Jack demands it from everyone else when they want to do something, but those requirements don't apply to him it seems.

addressing residents' concerns

Let's not let this spiral into another ugly community argument. The fact is the choice for moderator is extremely unpopular. Jack, you mention above "I am looking for feed back and input from individuals and groups with-in the ward" and here you have it! Time to choose a new moderator and move on to what will hopefully be yet another successful event. I know from my Fuzzy Boundaries involvement that it is difficult to back track, but when we heard from residents that they wanted a community vote rather than a panel analyzing votes of the first round, we changed the process to address the residents' concerns.

RE Sue-Ann Levy

Like I told Vic, before I told everyone else about the debate and who the moderator was. I mentioned it to the Mayoral Candidates. None of the 6 candidates had any objections or concern, which was important for the debate to continue. I also let many others in the ward know and it seems that it's only about 10 or so people, all in JT who were oposed to Sue-Ann Levy been the moderator. I am not sure if this is about Sue-Ann Levy or something else. I also been hearing this been compared to FB incident, you cannot compare the two.

Remember all the questions been put forward to the candidates are coming from the residents.

I also heard concerns about the other debate I organized, about the moderator. It wasn't perfect, but it worked. Beside Vic and Katie the same people who have concerns did not show or boycotted he first debate I organized.

Eli Malinsky is doing a debate. I didn't hear any complaints towards him, nor do I believe that he need to ask for permission to do a debate.

The other thing I said to Vic since he was the one who brought this concern up, there is still a few months left. I will sit on this for a bit. I did let Sue-Ann Levy know and her response who be pasted at the end of this email.

I have already started to received some questions from residents and others who have concerbs and questions they would like to see put forward to the Mayoral Candidates. Few from CTC and also from others. None expressed any objection about Sue-ann Levy

I want to finish off by saying that this ward is big enough to do more debates and I encourage others to do that. There is nothing to gain by doing this debate. Other then to get the residents a chance to voice there concerns and put ward18 up in the map.

The hours, the flyers, posters, calling and emailing candidates and getting a venue is all volunteer and money coming from me. I don't have sponsors and many people to help out other then a few.

I have a list of people that I called to be a moderator. People who are in media or journalism. I was looking for a outsider a complete stranger to do something big like this.. Will keep you posted.

Please see Sue-Ann Levy response:

Jack,
I'm offering my services -- for free.
You will get an honest, hard-hitting debate--maybe you'll even get some answers to some tough questions, not Pablum.
All the best,
Sue-Ann

Sue-Ann Levy
City Hall Columnist
Toronto Sun

No Excuses

It doesn't matter that all the candidates are o.k. with Sue-Ann Levy -- NONE of those candidates have been elected to represent Ward 18. Yes this becomes about YOU again because you stick your nose into everyone's business and yet expect your projects to only be about the issue.

RE: "I also let many others in the ward know and it seems that it's only about 10 or so people, all in JT who were oposed to Sue-Ann Levy..."

To be fair about the FB process, and it's documented online that only you and Virginia were the most viciously vocal about that project. How do YOU KNOW that all the other 10 people opposed to Sue-Ann Levy were not getting feedback from others in the community, questioning her as moderator? You make plenty of excuses when the spotlight is on you. You bully others to live by what YOU THINK is the ONLY way to do produce a community event then find many excuses why the same rules don't apply to you and why you think you are above from others.

RE: "The hours, the flyers, posters, calling and emailing candidates and getting a venue is all volunteer and money coming from me. I don't have sponsors and many people to help out other then a few. "

That's no excuse for your past behaviour towards other community groups' projects, not just FB, but everything anybody else does that you don't initiate. EVERYONE spends plenty of volunteer time working on their individual projects and the main opposition ALWAYS come from YOU. Why is it that you don't have many people helping you out? Why? Is it because NO ONE really wants to work with someone who can't compromise and forces his methods on others? You can ask for sponsorship yourself, but be prepared to live by the same scrutiny you have thrown on so many others in this community. YOU are NOT ABOVE it all.

Also it's not ALL the

Also it's not ALL the candidates, only 6. Which 6? Who will choose? Again this is not democratic and there has been no consultation.

No Carpetbagers

Look up some of Sue-Ann Levy's columns, she hates everything ward 18 is trying to do in terms of making the ward a greener, community focused, more livable place.

She calls people "socialists" and "anti-car-zealots" and then says she is a journalist. How about all of her recent columns about how great Rob Ford is and how great privatizing everything in the city will be. Or all of her stories criticizing George Smitherman and Joe Pantelone?

This doesn't sound like an unbiased moderator to me. She sounds like a member of Rob Fords Campaign team. In fact her paper, of which she is obliged to tow the editorial slant of, has been a non-stop backer of Councils right wing for years and this April featured a full front page story about how great Rob Ford was.

I don't care really what Sue-Ann Levy thinks, that's her business, but her values don't represent what I think the values of this ward are, and I remind you that this ward does not elect conservative anything members---we vote Liberal Left. I want somebody moderating who reflects our values and knows our issues; isnt an involved ward 18 resident good enough to moderate?

RE: Carpetbagers

Scottd said:
"I remind you that this ward does not elect conservative anything members---we vote Liberal Left"

I didn't realize we do it that way in this ward. I must of missed that memo. Scott I think you done some good work in the hood and people respect you, but where do you get off telling people how to vote. You have critized all the candidates, I don't see you running. Here is a challenge, why don't you run?? It's not to late. I'm sorry I wouldn't be able to vote for you because I don't vote Liberal Left. I like the green party personally. JF

Green? Funny, I saw a blue

Green? Funny, I saw a blue Conservative sign on your house in the last election. And don't you work for a conservative Trustee? I guess we can't trust anything you say.

Jack Fava likes Lberals too :)

Apparently Jack doesn't vote Liberal but it didn't stop him from holding a press conference in 2009 in JT to support Liberal MPP Mike Colle's private members bill. And then Jack was promoting was the rally against guns sponsored by Tony "Diesel" Ruprecht another Liberal MPP.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21510434@N04/3374767340/

I guess Jack did get that lefty memo. : )

Nice picture of me, Thanks

Just to Clarify ScottD and Jeff 's posting, Both Mike and Tony know that I don't support liberals, Tony has approached me on the same issue many times. I centered them both at one of the meet and greet one time.

Yes Mike did come down To JT as a request from me. I supported the Bill, not the MPP. I think it was a good Bill. I also requested it to be ammended which included to take not only their driver's Lic away, but also to inpound there car. It went to the 1st & 2nd reading, not sure if it was past, you can ask Cheri Dinovo.

Now Jeff regarding the signs, yes I had a Conservative sign and also a Green Party sign. I know and respect Theresa R. She is a good friend and would of made a good MP for Davenport, so would of the Green Party Candidate made a good MP. They both did well last election. JF

http://co103w.col103.mail.live.com/default.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0

Correction

There was no Green Party sign. Theresa R came in a distant third.

RE: Clarification on Jeffs comment

Before I clarify Jeffs posting regarding my signs. I want to say how spooky it is for someone to not only remember someone's else signs from 3 yrs ago, but for someone that's does not live close by. I don't even remember my next door neighbours. Anyhow, I spoke with Wayne Scott from the Green Party who ran for MP for Davenport. He is also well known in the community. He also spent 6 years at City Hall as the longest serving member of the TORONTO PEDESTRIAN COMMITTEE.

Wayne wrote the Following.
"I will be happy to tell any and all concerned that I did, in fact, erect a GREEN Party sign during the last federal campaign at YOUR request, in front of YOUR house at 105 Symington Ave. I will also be happy to tell them that I am about as far away from the "Harper Party" in my thinking, as anyone could possibly be"
Wayne Scott
DavenportGPC Candidate

I know what is spooky

I don't think that remembering what signs are posted on the lawn of somebody who lives a block away is spooky especially when that person is somewhat infamous in the community. What I do find spooky is threatening unsigned posters plastered all over the community in a cowardly fashion every time one or two malcontents wants to stop something . That's spooky, just like the unsigned threats last year at Perth Public. With the Police paying more attention people who post unsigned posters are the ones that should be spooked.

In terms of the Green Party that would be the Green Party whose leader worked for Brian Mulroney? That be the same Green Party who previous leader hired Mike Harris cronies to run the party? I dont want to get too off topic but the Green Party of Canada leadership currently is Libertarian which is on the right of the spectrum. We will see how long that lasts as the grassroots is very unhappy with this shift. There are countless stories and editorials online about this seeming contradiction.

Ward 18 Deserves Its Own Voice

The "memo" is called election results over the last 20 years lets say. I think you talked about people having a say and they have.The majority of people in this riding vote Liberal left and NDP left. You cannot argue with the votes cast in the election. So it is clear that the majority of people in this Ward, and I have lived in other parts of this ward, have concerns and issues that would not be of interest to a moderator who writes for a right wing newspaper and has publicly come out in support of a right wing candidate. Sue Ann Levy and her viewpoint couldnt get elected in this ward but somehow she has been chosen to represent us? I don't know how much clearer I can be.

In terms of running its you Jack that is always full of accusations about politicians but never run yourself. I dont think there is a person in JT who has been challenged more to put their money where their mouth is and run more than you but you never do. For the record all I have said about candidates is that the field is weak.

Not to get too off course but the Green Party in Canada is not the same as the one in Europe and in fact is pro business and somewhat libertarian-look it up. There have been quite a few battles between the older lefty Greens and some of the more recent Green leadership. To imply that the Green Party of Canada is left is not currently accurate; they are somewhat all over the map.

choosing a moderator

If your concern is putting on a good debate and doing something for the community, what is the problem with choosing a more acceptable moderator? If not one of the names put forward, someone else from the list of those you have considered?

ten to one

Jack, when you say, "it seems that it's only about 10 or so people, all in JT who were oposed to Sue-Ann Levy been the moderator" are you using the comments on this site to crunch your numbers? In that case, only ONE person is FOR Sue-Ann Levy.

Ouch. : )

Ouch. : )

I hear crickets chirping

The issue revolves around YOU again because you are NOT forthcoming with your answers. Who are the other moderators that are on the list you claim to have put together? Where are the others in your so-called small group of helpers and why are they not on this web site adding their opinion to this discussion about choosing a new moderator?

The deafening silence from the small group of helpers you claim to have is making others suspicious that it IS ONLY YOU who is choosing the moderator. Once again Jack Fava is proving that he doesn't play by the same rules he bullies others into doing by rumour mongering, misinformation through:
- posting up comments on various community web sites, easily viewed through an internet search
- the suspicious signage residents see on hydro poles, that spout out the same things you've been documented to say online

Perhaps, others should all perform the same tactics for a more honest discussion about choosing a debate moderator?

If you were at the meeting you would of known, PLUS

Who's calling the kettle black. The person that doesn't use there name, coward. You can say all you want it doesn't bug me, you should know this by now.

Yes I do have a list of past moderators and others possible moderator. Like I said, if you were listening there still 3 months before the debate, which you won't attend like the last one you boycotted. Right now I am receiving emails with concerns from residents, who want their concerns put forth to the Mayoral Candidates. The organizing team has decided to change the way we are going to choose the 4 questions. I need to talk to Donna and Richard from dig-in first. JF

This debate is a community

This debate is a community event. The next Mayor (as you well know) will affect the quality of life for ALL residents. There should be a process in place that lets the community have input. A process should be inclusive and fair. So far it's none of those things. That is disrespectful to the community. To behave in this fashion reveals that you do not value the opinions of the people in the community. The same goes for the secret food program for school kids. Who are you to think you can feed our children without any consultation with the parents?

Let's keep this conversation civil

It's heating up in here again. Let's try to keep this conversation on-topic, civil, and constructive.

It sounds like the mayoral debate organizers are open to suggestions right now (and have been in the past), so let's try to work towards actually making the event better. Bringing up past grievances and tangential arguments isn't helping to move things forward.

Send suggestions for other moderators and debate topics/questions to the organizers, or post them here.

Posting up Names of Possible Debate Moderators

I have a suggestion, could the organizers please post up the list of moderators, they have compiled, for everyone to look over? If the organizers are truly open to changes in their process, perhaps an open discussion as to who the other possible moderators are, can be helpful for transparency's sake.

There is only one organizer

There is only one organizer and he has no list.

..and now it's 11

As of today, there are now officially 11 candidates running in Ward 18. Mohammad Muhit is the latest addition.

Only Ward 27, Toronto Centre-Rosedale, has more candidates running (13).

Can't we just all get along?

I don't think name calling or personal attacks are a good thing in any forum, so I hope people will just cool down a bit.

As to the choice of Sue-Ann Levy, the positives I see is that it will garner more attention for the debate and the ward as, like it or not, she has name recognition and will attract media stories.

On the negative side, I am personally one who cannot subscribe to much of her views and yes she is very partisan. (However, once in a while she uncovers or ferrets out corruption at city hall). She says, "You will get an honest, hard-hitting debate--maybe you'll even get some answers to some tough questions, not Pablum" Well, possibly as she is not easily intimidated and the mayoral candidates are heavy hitters.

As to inviting only the top 6, I invite you to reconsider and perhaps add 2 more with names drawn from a hat. The debate where Rocco Achampong and Keith Cole were there from all accounts enlivened the debate.

Just my thoughts.

Mayoral Topics for Consideration

I think its important to make sure the topics/questions selected do not just allow the candidates to parrot their platforms but are varied, diverse and simple so we really do get some answers.

Some suggestions:

1. POVERTY and HUNGER in the city are often overlooked in city elections. Over 30% of children in Toronto live in poverty (below Statistics Canada Low Income Cutoff). Daily Bread recently reported a 15% increase in food bank demand over the last year while the economy was supposedly strong.
What specific steps will you take to address poverty and hunger concerns in Toronto?

2, AFFORDABLE HOUSING and HOMELESSNESS continues to be a problem in Toronto. Expensive condominium developments have been booming and densities are increasing. Many wards are seeing 'gentrification' which generally means pushing out older generational family homes and upscaling. Despite the last administration's "Streets to Homes" program citizens can plainly see homeless people everywhere.
What specfic programs would you advocate to increase choice in affordable housing and to reduce homelessness?

3. Transportation as a topic seems to gravitate to specifics of TTC, car gridlock or cyclists. Yet, there have been many incidences of pedestrian injury caused by traffic accidents, some where people have needlessly lost their lives.
What specific steps would you take to increase PEDESTRIAN safety and security on our city streets?

These are just 3 areas that I think keep getting missed in election campaigns and I really wish they would be brought up more.

2.

Good questions

Those are good questions, Ken. I do wish that the first two issues were addressed from a provincial and federal level though. At least from the cost perspective.

And you're absolutely right about pedestrian issues often being overlooked. I don't think I've heard any of the mayoral candidates speak up about it yet.

Poverty-Hunger-Affordable Housing issues

Yes, I too wish that the provincial and federal governments would do more about this.

The reality is that governments of all political stripes have been able to ignore or deflect concerns about poverty, hunger and homelessness for many decades, both in good or bad economic times. Yet it is at the local, city level that most of the progress has been made, perhaps because cities are face to face with the situation, often charged at least with the administration of programs in this regard.

In my opinion, it is important that all candidates for political office be asked their stance on these issues

Another in Ward 18: Elmi, Abdirazak

So we're now up to 12 candidates in Ward 18. Abdirazak Elmi registered on July 14th. Don't know anything about him, except that apparently he was running in Ward 7 (where Mammoliti has returned to run again after quitting his mayoral aspirations).

It has been a crowded race for a while now...but in my opinion, less than half of the candidates are contributing anything even remotely positive/interesting to this campaign. Lots of filler here.

Fall Election

Inside Toronto (i.e., The Villager) has a good summary of Ward 18 riding and its candidates at http://www.insidetorontovotes.ca/wards/bloor-west-parkdale/ward-18-daven... Nice to see the Junction Triangle featured in the Google map as the centre of the ward.

Why so much "filler" in ward 18 race? (as vic refers to it)

When there are no incumbents with name recognition running, some may feel they have an equal chance. Is getting elected just a lottery chance?

I discovered this great analysis on the blog site by Kris Scheuer here:
http://kscheuer.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/election-races-with-no-incumben...
"But the absence of incumbents, doesn’t mean newcomers will have an easier time getting elected. In fact, they may have to fight just as hard.
Name recognition can still be a factor in races with no incumbent, says University of Toronto political science professor Larry LeDuc.
“More candidates are attracted by the appeal of an ‘open’ seat, so the number of candidates ought to increase. And lesser known candidates will think they stand a better chance,” he wrote in an email. “But, somewhat perversely, the larger number of candidates may also confer an advantage on some whose names are better known to voters, even though they are not incumbents.”
One way to stand out in the pack is to run a serious campaign with a well thought out platform, says York University political science professor Robert MacDermid.
“The problem with 12 candidates is how do you sort out each person,” he says. “How do you tell who the serious candidates are?
“Many of these candidates aren’t serious. They want to appear at all candidates debates and talk about their one favourite issue,” says MacDermid. “If they are not serious candidates, so some voters get frustrated.”

At a bottom line cost of $100 to run for a $120,000+ a year job.... are we just seeing speculators and gamblers in the "filler" ???? ...hmmm

It's inaccurate to call it a

It's inaccurate to call it a $120K job. The salary is $99K. Yes there are benefits too - but you don't usually roll those in with salary when discussing what a person earns.

There's enough political grandstanding about councillor salaries out there already - I don't understand why a candidate would deliberately try to misinform people.

What people also forget is

What people also forget is that even an average councilor sits on additional committees at City Hall plus sits in on many boards in their community and attend events and meetings every night of the week. Being a councilor can be a 24 365 commitment, more so than MP's and MPP's. I would love to serve my community and have considered running (when I was in Parkdale) but having worked with councilors directly i realized that I would have no time for family or other interests and for that the salary was too low (Toronto's Council salaries, like our taxes are actually lower than most of the GTA). Salaries of elected officials are always an easy target for populist grand standers but if they were in the private sector they would be paid twice as much for the hours they put in.

Don't buy the heavy workload argument

I have been following city council for at least a decade now, even watching city council and committee meetings in person or via rogers. Yes a hard core of councillors are there for every meeting and are active in their wards, but the majority are frequently missing in action, skipping regular meetings or ducking out on key votes. Often committee meetings miss members or don't get quorum or are just postponed to next regular meetings.

scottd says: " Salaries of elected officials are always an easy target for populist grand standers but if they were in the private sector they would be paid twice as much for the hours they put in."

This is always the argument incumbents use to say they need to attract the best skills and is a fallacious argument on many grounds:

1. If they were in the private sector, they are subject to much more tangible penalties and rewards. Don't perform and you are fired - immediately. Exceed goals and you get bonuses. Neither of those systems are in the public sector for politicians. Apples and oranges comparison.
2. Politicians have no on site 'boss' per se. They use their time however they see fit, whether that be attending baseball games, dinner parties or meeting constituents. They are not held to accountr during their term of office except to themselves.
3. Salaries for elected politicians are often benchmarked to other levels of government and other geographies and positions. Different places, different times, different budgets. Still a lot of apples and oranges comparisons.
4. An argument made is often that elected politicians can suddenly find themselves out of a job come election time (happens infrequently if you look at history). Even if they do lose in an election, they are not out on the street like in a normal job. They have built up name recognition and networks and insider information that gives them fallback positions to run in other elections or to be on boards of corprations or be lobbyists.

Don't be taken in by the politician who claims 'it's hard' and I could do better in private industry. If money is what you want go there. If you want to serve the public - that's what voters should look for.

Odd Political Discussion

It drives me nuts that a candidate for public office is telling me what I should be looking for in an elected official. I can think for myself and make up my own mind just like everyone else in the Junction Triangle. How about telling us what you are going to do Ken and stop telling us how we should think and act? Can we expect that you will give up the salary should you become the next councillor, or will you be keeping all the money?

Giving Up Some Money

As I stated in last two candidates' debates, I pledged to give up $20,000 of salary to be put towards developing better communication tools to reach ward 18 residents in their ow language. Didn't see any other candidate offer up that.

City Councillors Make Good Money Plus Perks

City Councillor : $ 99,535 plus $ 21, 246 benefits = $ 120,781
plus a $53,100 office expenses budget that they can pretty much do what they want with
plus expenses paid for travel and trips to conferences around the world (see this link for examples: http://www.680news.com/news/local/article/41555--giambrone-tops-list-of-... )

Back down to 11 candidates

According to the City's website, Ken Wood has withdrawn from the Ward 18 race.

Confirmed - Wow, You are Fast!

Yes. Just returned from City Hall where I withdrew at 12:48 PM today
(Guess this means that not only city hall but also vic is surprisingly efficient)

I just got on to post my withdrawal with a brief explanation:

Four Reasons:

1. I live in a centrally forgotten area of the ward with extremely cynical (non) voters. I know this as I worked in the election and saw the voter apathy here. There is very little desire in my local neighbourhood to become politically active over the long term. While other areas bloom with increasingly powerful lobby groups, BIA's and residents' associations, all around me my neighbours just don't engage in that way. I have no name recognition and cannot afford to buy it, and there is little support for political campaigns here. So, I can't even get off the starting blocks.

2. Money. I am poor and my neighbours are struggling (over a third of the ward earns less than $30,000 and many low incomers are in my immediate area). Although the city made some great strides in forbidding big corporate or union donations to political campaigns they still have the glaring loophole whereby partisan parties can loan out paid volunteers to campaigns. Ana Bailao and Kevin Beaulieu are both certainly benefitting from this (Liberal, NDP). Elections are still an uneven playing field.

3. I originally entered the race to challenge Adam Giambrone and offer an alternative. Like many residents, I grew sick of the lack of consultation, his poor judgement and felt I could do better. Now Adam is out for reasons we all know and there are many challengers - with so much "filler" as vic loves to say. Davenport has many choices.

4. I am rather economically disadvantaged, being on ODSP (disability), and finding myself short of food for myself - and worse - for my cats. Here I thought that since city hall required the $100 fee in cash when I registered February 1st, I might have it returned in kind. No such luck. 'The cheque will be in the mail'.

I thank the people in my community who engaged in the political process by coming out to candidate meetings and particularly those who organized such events. I am saddened I cannot continue to run, but realities must be faced.
Ken Wood (the tree guy)

Ward 18 Polls

I put up a poll for Ward 18 earlier this month and encouraged people to place a vote.

http://torontoelection2010.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/ward-18-polls-davenp...

I am going to conduct more polls throughout the election.

Carlos.

Your poll is quite

Your poll is quite unscientific. : )

Must be a Tory

After the long-form census debacle, I wonder if this guy is a Tory because they are the only people who think self-selecting survey respondents produce valid/useful information.

What's the Point of It All

I don't understand the point of your informal polls and why would you continue to keep conducting one "throughout the election"? Unless it's an Angus Reid poll, I really don't get it?

Funny how you only brought it

Funny how you only brought it to attention after closing the poll. You certainly didn't encourage anyone on this site to vote. If I were Ana I'd be distancing myself from these kinds of sleazy tactics. I don't think the paper poll at the meet & greet is appropriate either.

Polls Bad, Information Good

I've always thought polls did a great disservice to democracy.

They tend to trivialize what should be a well thought out and complex choice of who would best serve a community's needs. They are in effect a juvenile sort of popularity contest, much like a beauty pageant that looks only skin deep, attempting to reduce substance to the level of "appearance" of skill.

Lazy voters often vote on just recognizing a name, with no other information.
(Then again, the laziest voters simply don't vote and placate themselves by saying "ah they're all the same - crooks - why bother")
Polls give the lazy voter the opportunity to jump on a perceived bandwagon and feel their forced choice must be right becauase some percentage of others seem to agree.

It would serve democracy better if public polls were banned for 6 months prior to elections. The voter should do the work of informing themselves and asking questions. In a democracy that is the voters job, not some media or polling company.

2006 Election contributions

Scott D posted an interesting link over on the 370 Wallace (Former Glidden site) forum. The link goes to votetoronto.ca, which has been collecting and summarizing campaign contribution statistics from some previous municipal elections. Unfortunately, their site is somewhat disorganized, but you can find some interesting details in there, especially if you do some Google searching (e.g.: "Ward 18" site:votetoronto.ca)

For the 2006 municipal election, you can get all of the campaign contribution details from the city's website here:
http://app.toronto.ca/EFD/search.do?DIALOG-EVENT-init=true&office=All

Would be interesting to see 2010's numbers too, but apparently we have to wait until next year to see those.

2003 Donor List can teach us many things too

As I said on the Wallace section...

The bottom line is are you representing the residents (which includes business) or are you supporting other interests that while perfectly legal, are potentially at odds with the residents of a ward. I think people would be surprised by some of the publicly available information about that. It would certainly concern me if a councillor had a lot of ties to developers and related companies doing business in my ward, on my street. Wouldn't it concern you? I'll be posting some more interesting publicly available information about this very soon.

Developer Money

One of the more interesting items is the money raised from developers.
Here are a couple interesting items: Ford got more money from unions than Miller (who funded 100% of his campaign with donations from individuals) For also got over three and a half times as much from developers than Giambrone. Gord Perks raised extremely little from developers.

Bailão: Past Donors Raise Questions For Me

In a lot of ways politics is about the friends you keep. It helps guide others in understanding where you are coming from and what your vision is. There are some serious questions about who exactly Ana Bailão wants to represent.

It is clear that in 2003 almost her entire campaign was funded by the construction industry or those within it without almost any donors actually listing addresses from Ward 18. In 2003 Ana Bailão raised almost TWICE the amount of the next candidate (Bailão 70024.54 Giambrone 42,00.70) Who exactly is paying for the Ana Bailão campaign this time?

Based on publicly available donor information from her 2003 campaign, there are serious questions unanswered about Ana Bailão and the company she keeps; questions that relate to issues going on right on my very street, issues that will impact what kind of community we will live in for the rest of our lives. Ana Bailão has done nothing wrong; but as a citizen of Ward 18 I have to question the company, or rather the companies she keeps.

Ana Bailão is quoted on page 6 and 7 of this summers edition of “New Voices” magazine: “Bailão also notes the difficulty of launching a campaign for candidates who lack a strong network of wealthy and influential contacts.” That may be true for some but she can’t possibly be referring to herself.

The Issue

Was Ana Bailão really running to serve the community in 2003? Her 2003 donor list (108 0f 112 Donors that could be identified) shows:

- Only 7 donors out of 108 had addresses listed within the ward accounting for a very very small % of her donations.

- The vast majority of donors listed addresses well outside the riding and at commercial construction businesses.

- The overwhelming majority of these commercial addresses were companies in the construction industry, especially concrete (such as Lee Rocca Concrete Forming in Oakville) even including St. Lawrence Concrete in Montreal Quebec! (St. Lawrence Cement is now called Holcim (Canada) Inc. and is a 1.3 billion dollar construction company). A large company outside of your province is donating to a Toronto councillor campaign?

- Many of the “individuals” names were actually the owners or presidents of the construction business (such as Pat Dipaolo , President of UCC Construction Group) listed at those addresses. Why not just just call it a business donation and list it as such? And if not a business donation then why not list a home address?

- Some of these individuals list addresses that are the HQ’s for very powerful construction industry lobby groups where they work or are involved (such as Michael O’Conner on Brundel Road Mississauga which is where he works at the Ontario Hot Mix (paving ) Association or what about Tony Carreira and John Meportin who both use the address of the Labourors union LiUNA local 183, or Scott Marus who lists the Toronto Professional Fire Fighters Association(IAFF Local 3888) at 39 Commissioners Road, or Manuel Valenti who is the director of Masonary Contractors Association of Toronto.) From contractor, to developer, to lobbyist---they are all in Ana Bailão’s donor list. All good people but shouldn’t some of these donations have been listed under unions, lobbyists, and company categories like the other candidates did so we have a better sense who whom is backing a candidate?

- Many of these companies including developers (Somerset Homes) who have or will at some time do work in our Ward and with the City. There is nothing wrong with that but shouldn’t citizens know this before they vote so people know who is bankrolling your campaign?

- The pattern of donations is so overwhelmingly consistent that you can only come to one conclusion. Ana Bailão was the 2003 construction/developer industry candidate in Ward 18 by a mile. How might that effect her votes at Council? Shouldn’t voters have known? If you did not take the time to actually look up the addresses you wouldn’t have.

Googlemap of 2003 Ana Bailão Donors

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=229+Perth+Ave,+Toronto,+Toronto+Division,+Ontario+M6P+3X7,+Canada&msa=0&msid=103158910526987248582.00048e5b09258e7a9f5f4&ll=44.47796,-76.760489&spn=3.053216,7.36084&z=8

Lets Put Everything In The Open

One has to ask, is Ana Bailão running to represent the citizens of Ward 18 or running to represent the development and construction industry? In 2003 she had almost zero financial support from Ward 18 business and residents and could not have run a campaign without the backing of the construction industry.

How would her winning then or now effect the development, rezoning, and future land use in our area? One of her donors, Somerset Homes told me yesterday that they are sitting on the property a block from my house until council changes the “employment lands” zoning now in effect on that property. When that vote comes up at Council who will be more important to Ana Bailão: the West End residents who want to protect Railpath that runs along the property and have developments that fit in with the existing community, or the construction/development industry who doesn’t have to live here and gets to leave when the money is made?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being the construction industry candidate, if Ana Bailão wants to be that. The construction industry helped build this great city and have provided lots of good jobs over the years. But the reality is that all industry has motives and agendas that will favour themselves first and there can be no mistake about that. That’s the way it works. But the theory behind local politics is that resident seek a representative that will honour and forward THEIR agenda; to level the playing field between Junction Triangle and the Holcim (Canada) Inc. Conglomerate, UCC Group with revenues of 50 million, or even SC Construction of Woodbridge with 5 million in revenues: all Bailão donors in 2003.

As a resident of Ward 18 I want to know that votes on zoning and development will be based on what is best for the Ward and not what is best for one industry special interest group.

Where Does This Information Come From?

From Ana Bailão herself. Everything I am concerned about stems from Ana Bailão 2003 “Financial Statement and Auditors Report” signed by Ana Bailão on June 30 2004 and available from:
Toronto Elections office website ( http://www.toronto.ca/elections/contribution-info.htm)
Vote Toronto website ( http://www.votetoronto.ca/financial/wards/2003T/Ward18_2003T.htm)

or in person as I got copies quite a few years ago. Every single name, address, person, company, or detail is publicly available to anyone who wishes to look it up.

Some of the companies and donors have changed addresses since that campaign and I tried to call each and every one of them to confirm. I corrected some mistakes of addresses that were innocent and I probably have made an honest error in an address or two myself but the pattern is unmistakable.

Ana Bailão has NOT done anything illegal nor has anybody who donated to her campaign. That is NOT what concerns me so lets not disrespect people. Every single person on her donor list is a verifiable and reputable person as far as I am concerned and by donating to her campaign has performed a valuable public service. I come from from a union construction family where hard work was respected as was making your voice heard at election time and getting to the bottom of things.



Blog TO: Development Becomes Issue

Blog TO features last nights event and Ana Bailao's donor past start to get attention.

http://www.blogto.com/city/2010/08/drinks_with_the_candidates_for_ward_18/

Local Development

I respect the work that you've done in researching your position to ensure it's an informed one. It's commendable that you put so much effort into being engaged in the local community.

I write now because as a BOW purchaser I have often read about your stance on development in the area. Unfortunately, I feel as though my young family isn't exactly welcome in the area because we bought into a new development that you and others were/are opposed to (for varying reasons). I find it difficult to understand how a new residential development, mostly bought by young couples and families, is a bad thing considering the previous use of the property?

If Somerset Homes develops on that parcel of land and respects the spirit of the area related to appearance and functionality, as well as traffic flow and access, how can it be worse than what the land-use was, or is now?

While I understand your position on candidate funding and their actual agenda if elected, the development issue smacks of NIMBYism. Your neighbourhood is changing, you don't feel like you've had adequate input in the process and neither is acceptable to you. In my opinion, developments like BOW do nothing but remove heavy industry from a residential area, improve property values, increase local school catchment and create a greater sense of community. My hope is that when BOW buyers do move in that we are welcomed warmly and not viewed as the people who ruined the neighbourhood.

Good Development Is Always Welcome Everywhere

Hi Jamie

Thanks for your kind words. Of course you are welcome. But I do suggest that calling people names who you have never met or spent any time with is not very nice. Especially since it was myself and many locals who fought hard to make the building you bought into a nicer place. The added green, the better sightlines, the added trees, better outside finishing, more street friendly layouts, the more secure parking garage, and the link to Railpath were the result of so called NIMBY's in your new area. We even tried to have one less building for more green but the developer would not go for it. We all spent a lot of hours with the developer, the police, the Councillor and the Planning department over about 3 years BEFORE the units went on sale and I was even having friendly discussions with the developers representative only 3 months ago about an outstanding item.So thank you, you are welcome. For the record I don't recall anybody ever saying in our area that un-used land should not be developed.In fact the issue has always been an to make any development match the area and add rather than detract. One area of work has been investigating home work studios for employment lands. A few developers have also helped out with community projects so any attempts to call people anti-development will just get you laughed at. So I am sorry but you don't have any context or knowledge about the area or any of the people who live here. That comes with time. I think you are confusing aversion to cookie cutter terrible development, such as what went on during the Mario Silva days, with some kind of aversion to development in general. It's just not the case.

If you knew me or read other posts here besides ones that relate to you then you would know that I was a very big supporter of the highrise Giraffe building that was canceled by actual NIMBYs and even suggested that it would be welcome in our area on Bloor. Hardly anti-development if you ask me. You might also notice my keen support for the redevelopment of the Church NEXT TO MY HOUSE into lofts. Hardly anti-development.

I also think that you greatly simplify the planning and zoning process that is involved in these kinds of projects. In the case of your building the developer unleashed a team of lobbyists and experts at every community meeting vs. one lone City planner fresh out of school. It was residents who said this development can be better and made it happen. Its part of the process, otherwise you get crap; developing is a for profit business as you know. Good development just doesn't happen because people want it to, it requires monitoring, posting on blogs, and sometimes protesting. I suspect that once you have a place of your own you will not be so quick to judge those that want a say in what is built in their community. Especially since their are upcoming zoning issues all around you that will have a significant impact on your property.

In terms of Ana Bailao, her record speaks for itself and as a person living in an area with a lot of unused land one has to wonder how a councillor, supported in the past almost 100% by the construction industry or those in it will vote on issues about zoning, density, and everything else that goes with it. Ana needs to prove that she will vote for the ward and not for an industry.Remember, I didn't create her donation form, she did.

I am on about 5 committees in our area and there are others and new ones starting. When you move here join in, learn about the area, and leave your mark.

Concerns About Local Development Is Not NIMBYism

Jamie, it is great that you and your young family are moving into the neighbourhood. You are part of a trend in the area with lots of young families choosing to live in the Junction Triangle because it is one of the few (relatively) affordable areas in West Toronto.
I think it is unfortunate that you confuse Scott's criticisms of the "Brownstone Builder" and his legacy of questionable developments with the mistaken idea that he doesn't want to see new residential projects here. We all want to see good things happen here, but given the track record of Mr. Falus and the litany of complaints by many of his customers, it is clear that the neighbourhood needs to actively engage and review all of his building plans carefully. Perhaps if there were a few more people like Scott around ten years ago, the extremely lame Standard Lofts would be a nicer place rather than the cost effective and unimaginative place it is today.
Regarding the election of the next councillor, the donor list of Ana Bailao raises questions that need to be addressed - will she be representing the intersts of her constituents or those developers who funded her campaign in the past? Will she clear the air and reveal her donor list for her current campaign before the election or hide it until the vote is over? With so much land in the Junction Triangle coming on-line for development in the next few years, do we really want a councillor who was/is fully funded by developers?

Bailao, the Candidate from Woodbridge?

Campaign money coming almost exclusively from developers and construction companies is a real concern with so much land in the Junction Triangle prime for development. Equally concerning is that only seven of the 108 donors identified live in the Ward. Who will come first when tough choices have to be made, residents or outsiders with commercial interests?

Reminder: Crime and Safety Issues Still Exist Everywhere

Just walked half a block down to College/Lansdowne on a beautiful Saturday morning to find Police Forensic division investigating the scene in front of the Angolan Bar just next to the recently closed En Contro Portugese bar. There was a knife fight at 11:30pm last night and a 40 year old man was murdered. Scary as my bedroom is maybe 300 feet away and I was up working on my computer. Heard some vague yelling but nothing that twigged an alarm.

Here is the Star story: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/853812--man-40-dies-from-s...

Meanwhile, shootings at at King and Dufferin (Parkdale) and in Lawreance Heights and in Kensington Market, and near Weston and Black Creek - all in past 3 days ! : http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/853756--man-taken-to-hospi...

So wher are the ward 18 candidates and the mayoral candidates on this issue now?

Be Very Afraid!

What would you like them to do Ken?

What to Do? Here's some ideas, Anyone else have some?

1. More police presence! Police often at Tim Horton's on the corner on breaks but ignore traffic infringements, noise, rowdyism. Many of my neighbours, business owners and landlords say they call police often but get little response. Very rarely see photo radar here too.
2. Safety audit needed: Camera at intersection while it would not deter crime, would catch the many near misses, cars whizzing by open streetcar doors, and be a backup for incidents like this. We also need better roadway markings. Signs often in disrepair, hanging at angles, signage not clear to motorists. Has been TTC accidents here too.
3. This area is the forgotten core of ward 18, with no active residents association like at Dufferin Grove or Dyan Marie-arts-land (DigIn). We need active participation by residents, who unfortunately are still angry and feeling disenfranchised from Giambrone's non-consultative Lansdowne narrowing fiasco.
4. Whatever happened to the idea of Neighbourhood Watch? Lots of kids, families still in the area despite wrong-headed move to close West Toronto school. Will it be a community center? Or will city sellout to developers to erect eyesore condominiums?
5. Many residents whose first language is not English are out of the loop and unrepresented in local and city democracy. We need the city to communicate in residents own language: Portugese, Chinese, Spanish, Italian, Vietnamese, etc.
6. There has been no significant "traffic-calming" to Lansdowne Avenenue despite city spending a few million dollars. Cyclist, pedestrian accidents, traffic gridlock, etc. We need to fix what Adam destroyed here. We need more crosswalks, lower speed limit as excessive speeding off rush hours.
7. Graffiti eradication: Just a block from our city councillor's office there is ugly gang tag graffiti everywhere. Why isn't this addressed with arts projects that other areas get?
8. Abandoned prtoperties: Coffee Time at Dundas/Lansdowne closed for long period, marked by graffiti. Much like the Seven-Eleven that sat vacant for years. Businesses on College Street (even right beside Councillor's office) can't make a living. Are they ignored because there is no College Street BIA? City needs affordable housing, yet the property at 1005 (?) College near Havelock is an abandoned eyesore that's been that way a long time.
9. Any City Councillor should represent ALL areas of his or her ward, not just special interest lobby groups. Does such a creature exist?

Ken I don't mean to be rude

Ken

I don't mean to be rude but this website is for residents of Junction Triangle and was created to help give voice to a community that always seemed to be an afterthought to the surrounding communities.

I have read many of your posts on other blogs and read about you in the paper and I am not sure if your over the top pronouncements are helpful or for that matter accurate.

There is crime everywhere and it will always be that way. Every large city in the world experiences crime and in the case of murder most of that is committed by people who know each other. The point is Toronto and our area is pretty safe. If you live in Junction Triangle and Ward 18 then the good news is that crime overall and in EVERY category has been on a steady downward cycle for the last 15 years despite what some people seem to think. Many long term residents gush these days about how great the JT has become with people walking and cycling the streets and walking to the many new eateries in the area. If you had not dropped out of the race you would have been at an overflowing candidates saloon at Boo Radleys; something impossible 10 years ago.

How do I know that crime has gone down? I was given the complete statistics by the Metro Police Crime Analysis Unit and while crime has dropped all across the city, it has dropped even more in our area. This information is available to the public at no charge.

If you are going to post here please keep to topics that relate to JT and please present accurate information instead of fear mongering. Thank you.

Don't I have a Right to an Opinion Too?

Scott, I have seen your posts where you vociferously complain about other people's opions being out of place or having some ulterior motive. Yet, isn't the essence of an inclusive democratic community one where every individual has the right to free expression of opinion? In my experience, this site seems to suffer an inordinate amount of censorship of certain others' opinions. Okay if it's one person's blog or diatribe, but this site says "this is a community website, ideas and help are always welcome!" If you purport to represent a community, you need to let the community have input.

Feel free to question my accuracy... point taken that crime stats overall are down, but the lived experience of people is that they have fear for their safety. Example: Sun story says about the Lansdowne/College stabbing, "One woman, who gave her name as Leonna, said she doesn't feel safe. "I try not to walk alone at night," she said. "I just don't feel 100% safe here." When she can afford it she said she plans to move." Maybe over the top, but that's the press that people see. So to me it makes it a legitimate election issue.

You said "If you are going to post here please keep to topics that relate to JT"..., Fair enough, but election issues I submit ARE relevant. Vic himself asked for input about election issues.

Scott, I get that you not have voted for me anyways, but I am not one to curry favour by agreeing with things I do not support.

Ken

Divided We Fall ?

PS : Scott is in "a community that always seemed to be an afterthought to the surrounding communities"...

Well, so am I .

Isn't it interesting that to get elected to city council, any candidate can play off one area against another such that by satisfying..oh, say, 15-20% of the people in one defined geographic area, then subsequently just ignore the otrher 80% or so?

Also sad. It means we all become divided, potentially against each other, when we should ber uniting on the issues that bring us together.

Ken Wood, Meet Some Statistics, Again

Sorry to be the barer of facts again but if this some veiled Giambrone comment as part of your ongoing Giambrone crusade you can look up the results of the 2006 election (by polling station) and that would reveal that Giambrone won every single poll in the Ward BY A MILE. Nobody even came close. Hardly playing one area off another. Ward 18 voted for Adam overwhelming in every area. If anything the ward was united. Maybe not the reality you would like, but reality nonetheless. Sorry.

Again a theory of yours is proven not to be accurate.

JT Posts Welcome, Rants not

Ken

I have been posting information directly relating to JT and JT issues in the most recent cases backed up by documented facts.

You have started posting here the same stuff that you have been posting for years on other sites. Giambrone is gone. Move on.

Since you are no longer a candidate in this Ward possibly you could continue to post your ideas on your blog for those that are interested or post on a Lansdowne Blog where your point have more interest to people and post here when it relates to the JT (such as an event or rally ). There is more than enough places for you to express your opinion elsewhere but it would be appreciated if it related to JT. I don't think that is too much to ask.

I Stand Admonished

Never let it be said I didn't listen to criticism. I shall do as you say and stay out of your community and hope we can form one of our own here. Too bad as I thought the Junction was doing a lot to forward the idea of much broader community. I shall respect your borders and wish you luck.
Ken

Mayor's Debate - Thursday in Ward 18

The Queen West BIA is hosting a Mayor's Debate this Thursday, September 9th at the Gladstone Hotel (1214 Queen West). The event starts with a meet and greet at 5 p.m. followed by the candidates Question and Answers session at 6 p.m.

The event is being streamed online and has three media moderators participating in the event - Marcus Gee from the Globe and Mail, Julie King from CanadaOne.com and Rick Spence of the Financial Post. The participation of three journalists promises to bring some balance to the discussion of entrepreneurship, small and medium sized businesses. More info can be found at http://westqueenwest.ca/event/toronto-mayoral-candidates-small-business-...

Ward 18 Debate on Rogers

On September the 29th at 8:00 PM there will be a debate on Rogers television cable 10 for the candidates for councillor in Ward 18. Tune in to see what the candidates have to say.

11 Candidates Again in Ward 18

"If you know of any links to other candidates' websites, please post them here."

Complete list of contacts, weblinks, photos, etc here:
http://davenportdemocracy.blogspot.com/2010/09/campaigning-moves-to-high...

Last chance to register or withdraw is 2pm TODAY Sept 10 at City Hall...

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