Junction Triangle Rail Committee


What does increased diesel traffic along the borders of our triangle mean for the community? The newly formed Junction Triangle Rail Committee will focus on the merits of electrification and the construction of the Davenport Diamond overpass/separation on the eastern side of the neighbourhood.

The Junction Triangle Rail Committee is all for more trains, but we strongly feel electrification is long overdue and Metrolinx must consider the impact of their expansion plans on residents in this neighbourhood. GO Transit and the Government of Ontario have been talking about electrifying the lines since the 1960s, but each decade the plan gets dismissed for being too costly. And each decade, the costs increase. But what about the long-term costs of diesel exhaust?

We're a new group, but we have several ideas brewing. Watch for our roving cameramen who'll conduct interviews with people on the streets of our community; and soon we'll announce details about a series of Sunday picnics in July, as well as a Nuit Blanche event at the Wallace Bridge in October.

We see ourselves as a distinct group, separate from others like the Clean Train Coalition, but also happy to overlap when necessary. So far we've discovered that these communities are officially for electrification:

West Bend Community Association
Roncesvalles-Macdonell Residents' Association
Junction Residents Association
Mount Denis Community Association
Weston Community Coalition
High Park Residents Association
Junction Triangle Rail Committee
Ritchie•Herman•Golden•Silver
Carleton Village Residents Association

We want the Junction Triangle to be part of that growing network.

Surrounded by rails, the Junction Triangle stands right at the centre of this controversy and deserves a voice. If you're interested in joining the push for electrification right here in your own neighbourhood and want Metrolinx to practice responsible construction methods that won't drive people from their homes, please contact us by emailing rail@junctiontriangle.ca or using the online contact form.

Realtors for Electric Rail
Chander Chaddah
Anita Merlo
Nutan Brown
Julie Kinnear
Kim Kehoe

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Mayoral Debate and Electric Trains

Wednesday's mayoral debate was covered on-line by the Globe and Mail's Kelly Grant. The two current front-runners had some interesting comments in response to a question about Metrolinx expansion plans and the airport rail link along the Georgetown corridor. Here is what Kelly posted:

Smitherman: Airport line should be first in region to be electrified but needs support of SNC Lavalin.
Ford: Wants a cost analysis on electric v. Diesel. Whichever is cheaper for taxpayers is the way to go. Well, a vote for diesel.
Ford: If diesel is going to cost an extra billion, how can we pay? Property taxes? We're 3-billion in debt already.
Smitherman: Anybody who wants to pretend electrification doesn't have extraordinary costs is "whistling dixie."
Ford: "I'm not going to feed you a line of B.S" on electrifying trains. Says we can't afford it -- a tough stance considering crowd.

For electric train proponents, Ford is clearly on the wrong side of the issue while Smitherman does not appear ready to fight for clean trains.

Electric Trains Worldwide

Here's an interesting article from inhabitat.com about China's plans to expand and connect their electric train rails to the rest Europe, 17 other Asian countries AND Eastern Europe -- in the next 10 years!

Metrolinx is quibbling about cost for our tiny infrastructure project, yet compare that to China's massive electrical expansion lines and Canada comes off quite regressive. China is now the leader in high speed rail. What's Metrolinx waiting for?

Metrolinx PR Event

An Invitation to Attend Electrification Study Update Meeting – Georgetown Corridor

Metrolinx has initiated a study of the electrification of the entire GO Transit rail system – all seven corridors – as a future alternative to diesel trains now in service. This comprehensive study will consider all potential benefits and costs for various propulsion technologies including diesel technology and electric propulsion for GO trains in the future. A joint venture of Delcan Corporation and Arup Group Inc. is leading the study, which is expected to be completed by the end of 2010.

The update meeting will be held Thursday, May 27th 2010 from 7:00 – 9:30 p.m. at the Lithuanian House, 1573 Bloor Street West. The purpose of the meeting is to provide an update on the Electrification Study progress to date. The meeting format will consist of a presentation by the Electrification Study Team, followed by an opportunity for participants to ask questions and offer feedback on the work completed to date.

If you wish to attend the meeting, please RSVP by Tuesday, May 24th to estudy@metrolinx.com – so we can ensure we do not exceed capacity. I would also ask that you circulate this invitation to others in your community who might be interested in attending the Update Meeting.

In the meantime, I invite you to visit the updated Electrification Study website for more information about the study: www.gotransit.com/estudy.

Sincerely,

Karen Pitre

Project Director

Electrification Study

Karen.Pitre@metrolinx.com

416- 874-5910

Hard to Trust Metrolinx

It is hard to trust Metrolinx after all of the nonsense residents have endured with the pile driving. Calling this project an "Electrification Study" is another example of how this crown corporation is just trying to ram diesel trains onto our community because it is the cheapest form of rail expansion to build.
As the notice states, the study is exploring all forms of propulsion including diesel. That's not an electrification study and shouldn't be called one. It is just a blatant example of word games and another sign that Metrolinx is simply going through the motions of consulting residents and ignoring our concerns.
At a recent meeting with Metrolinx, they explained that this study will make no recommendations and is not binding in any way - they are exploring all possible rail systems while forging ahead with their diesel expansion. What's the point? This does little more than waste taxpayer money and create more work for Liberal hacks and consultants.

It very sad to see us have to

It very sad to see us have to suffer with second rate polluting diesel technology while the rest of the world moves on in a greener and more innovative way. The current Metrolinx plan is really just a dusted plan from the 90's and one has to ask if GO was not already studying and thinking about future rail expansion, what were they doing for the last 25 years ?

Its sad that Metrolinx is spending large amounts of money managing public relations and phony Electrification "studies" instead of spending that money on the obvious need to go electric. Dalton may think this makes him look good but when people realize that they funded a polluting for profit airport link it may come back to haunt them. Meanwhile every engineer I have talked to at Metrolinx, off the record, is letdown and professionally embarrassed that their defining career project will be this visionless waste of money.

Metrolinx Meeting Leaves Residents with More Questions

Lisa Rainford provides a good summary in Friday's Villager of the recent Metrolinx meeting.

"Community members who attended Metrolinx's meeting to update the public on its electrification study of the Georgetown Corridor were left scratching their heads when they learned that the provincial transportation agency's analysis introduced other alternative technologies, such as bio-diesel fuel and natural gas, among others.
"It's not clear how this study will affect people in this room," said Clean Train Coalition spokesperson Keith Brook as the audience, who had gathered at the Lithuanian Hall on Bloor Street West. "We're so pro-electrification; you're looking at nine different technologies. The study is so massive. When will we get reasonable information that will affect people in this room?"

To get a sense of the nonsense that Metrolinx is trying to foist on the neighbourhoods of West Toronto, you can read the complete article at http://www.insidetoronto.com/news/local/article/822998--metrolinx-meetin...

Recent Comments by Metrolinx CEO

The Toronto Star has posted a blog story about comments this week by Metrolinx CEO Robert Pritchard about plans for electric trains and the airport link along the Georgetown corridor http://thestar.blogs.com/thegoods/2010/05/clean-train-coalition-asks-pri... Odd that the Star repeats the nonsense that the current study underway is about electrification. The initiative is really just a stalling tactic that will "study" all forms of rail transportation and not make any recommendations after a year's work.

Weston residents want bigger say in planned rail link

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/05/weston-residents-want-bigger-say...

A lot of good questions posed here by our friends in Weston. Here are two points made by Metrolinx that are not true.

1. Metrolinx states that it is about "getting cars off the road" but every single transit expert in the world knows that the only thing that takes cars off the road is tolls and reducing lanes, otherwise if people take public transit (and the rail link is for profit by the way) it creates space on the road and encourages more people to drive.Metrolinx is helping create sprawl.

2." Tier 4" engines, which do not exist at this point, regardless of how much they pollute, are an INCREASE in overall pollution because of the increased number of train trips. Lets be clear, Metrolinx means more air pollution in Toronto. There is only one solution to this issue and it is electric trains.

Metrolinx Falls Further Behind

Yet another roundup of HSP and Electric rail news from around the world. The world moves forward and Metrolinx is stuck in the past. When the rail media picks this story up Ontario will look like idiots. Thanks Dalton. You know who is paying the price.

http://www.infrastructurist.com/2010/06/11/the-week-in-high-speed-rail-w...

More Metrolinx Propaganda

Just got the latest flyer of misinformation from Metrolinx in the mail today. The true nature of PR spin is evident with the slogans across the bottom of both pages in bold that declares "It's Time for Change," "It's Time for Action" and "It's Time for Green."
Just trying to reconcile that overheated rhetoric with the diesel component of this project. What exactly is "green" about diesel? How does the addition of hundreds of diesel trains constitute "change?" And what do these plans say about the kind of "action" the provincial government and Metrolinx are willing to engage in?
Disheartening to see our tax dollars at work trying to propagate another Big Lie.

It's green, alright.

I believe this is what they mean by "green":

World Cup of Rail

What do the World Cup and a modern, world class electric train system have in common? Canada doesn’t play at that level. Canada is 63rd in the FIFA World rankings and its massive diesel train plan in Ontario makes it a bottom-feeder among nations.

Algeria (FIFA World Ranking # 30)
Alstom has been contracted by national rail operator Société Nationale du Transport Ferroviaire (SNTF) for an €89m, 350km electrification scheme and the supply of stock for three suburban lines south of Algiers. Algerian Transit Expansion All Electric.

Argentina (FIFA World Ranking # 7)
In May 2006, the Argentine Government announced plans to develop the first high-speed line in South America, stretching 310km…Complete List of Countries http://www.junctiontriangle.ca/rail/WorldCup

Metrolinx Holding Canada Back?

It's a startling point of reference. Almost all of the contending countries are miles ahead of us on both fronts. A simple comparison between Ontario's rail plans with other places (of notable rank) shows only a handful of countries in the most challenged situations do not have modern, electric rail systems or plans underway to build them.
The comparison is embarrassing. There is no excuse for a modern, industrial place like ours to build a deisel commuter train system. There may be no connection between world soccer and Metrolinx, but the results are about the same for Canada.

World Cup Legacy

An interesting story in the National Post today about the electric train legacy in Johannesburg from the World Cup http://www.nationalpost.com/news/World+Diary+Rail+line+strengthens+socia...
Quite a difference when you consider that the Pan AM Games legacy in Toronto will be a ten-fold increase in diesel trains.

Ruprecht Signs Clean Train Coalition Pledge

MPP Tony Ruprecht was working the crowd at the New Bloor Festival today (before the rain washed things out). He stopped by the Junction Triangle Rail Committee table. When I asked Mr. Ruprecht about signing the Clean Train Coalition electric rail pledge, he indicated that he has signed it twice now. Kudos to Bruce Gavin Ward who got him to sign. That is no small feat for a government member to sign on to something that is counter to official policy. Let's hope our MPP will finally step up the pressure on the McGuinty Liberals to do the right thing and go electric.

Ruprecht is yesterdays man

What a difference a year makes. At last years Bloor Festival Ruprecht berated Clean Train volunteers yelling "what's wrong with you people". I guess Tony realizes that the people calling for clean trains have not gone away, are building momentum, and there is an election coming.

Frankly what else has Tony done on this issue? Nothing. When publicly asked about his position he has been evasive, misleading, and condescending. We know, we have seen the footage.

Ruprecht is out of touch with the riding on environmental and health issues and chosen to stick his head in the sand and hide instead of having even at least once of courage or moral spine to at least show up at events relating to this issue. I would have respect for him if he had at least showed up as Metrolinx public meetings as other MPs and Councilors have.

Regardless of his governments wrong-headed policy, he was voted to represent us and advocate on our behalf. Instead he went into hiding. The Davenport riding deserves better.

Hear, hear! Well said

Hear, hear! Well said scottd.

I am an NDPer myself but at this point I don't care what party our next MPP is with as long as they genuinely represent the needs of this riding. Tony Ruprecht is like a parody of a shiftless politician -- but he's for real. It blows my mind that this guy has kept his seat for 20+ years. Let's hope he retires to enjoy his undeserved pension soon and makes room for somebody who cares about their job and their community.

Time For A New Liberal Candidate

Liberals should band together and challenge Tony for the nomination, force him to prove that he is actually doing things that help the area instead of his parade of meaningless photo ops that appear in his mailings. You have to ask whether Tony is really the best the Liberals can come up with; there is definitely somebody in the riding who can do a better job. I vote to the left and would vote liberal but I just cant vote for Tony. Maybe we can help him retire. : )

Ruprecht is an insult

The scary part of all this is that Ruprecht has held a seat at Queens Park since 1981. What does it say about our riding that we keep electing this guy who's not doing his job. I have requested his attendance records and his expenses (they are not public, as many people assume) and he has provided nothing. I made the request in March. This guy is basically ripping us off and not being held accountable.
My course of action for the next few elections will be anyone but Liberal or Conservative. The Conservatives could have come forward and made this diesel controversy a wedge issue to try and gain support but they haven't. They simply don't care about Public Transit or Toronto.

Ruprecht doesnt want you to

Ruprecht doesnt want you to know his attendance record. Lets ask him on camera next time (!) he shows up at something.

History of Mr. Ruprecht

It is hard to find anything good:
* Tony Ruprecht darkens my doorstep, brings up 184 Wallace: http://bloorlansdowne.blogspot.com/2007/08/tony-ruprecht-darkens-my-door...
* Another resident met him: http://funkaoshi.com/blog/tony-ruprecht#sep12th
* "Ontario Human Rights Commission complaint from a group of mentally ill Torontonians for saying his community had enough "crazed individuals" and didn't need another housing project." Tony lost and had to pay undisclosed sum for his callous remarks.
* No heroes in Davenport Riding: http://railroadedbymetrolinx.blogspot.com/2010/02/we-need-heroes-in-dave...
* Tony spends time in Cuba: http://www.blogto.com/city/2006/04/sun_smears_mpp/ Cannot find link to origial Sun expose
* Cat Challenges Tony:
http://torontoist.com/2007/10/claws_out_in_da.php
* Premier chides 'overzealous' Ruprecht: http://www.thestar.com/article/299765
* Tony Ruprecht in his own words: http://www.tonyruprecht.ca/insidepages.aspx?id=biography "Tony Ruprecht was first elected to the Ontario legislature in the west-end Toronto riding of Parkdale in 1981, again, in 1985, 1987, 1990, and 1995. In 1999, he was elected to the riding of Davenport and re-elected in 2003 and 2007..In 1978 Tony was elected as a senior alderman in Toronto and served on both the Metro and Toronto city councils." - A career politician, yet few outside Davenport have ever heard of him?

Tony got away with being a do nothing politician thanks to the general apathy of voters in our riding and the traditional immigrant vote that sees Liberals as the immigrant friendly party.

Tony Ruprecht what are you affarid of ?

Hey Tony why not clear the air and....

1. Make public your attendance record in the past and from now on via your webpage.

2. Make public via your website the other events that were so important that you have missed every single Metrolinx public consultation, meeting, rally, and information session. We would all be interested in what other events were more important than the health of the community.

This is not the first time that you have been asked for this information so Tony, what are you afraid of ?

Leadership Change at Metrolinx

A story in today's Globe and Mail details a leadership change at Metrolinx http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/veteran-bureaucrat-... Not sure how this will affect efforts to convince the regional transportation agency to electrify the Georgetown corridor. Are life-long bureaucrats open to new ideas or just heartless drones focused on meeting managerial outcomes?

Province to take over Airport Rail Link

Interesting news:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/842240--province-to-run-rail-lin...

In a surprise move, Metrolinx has announced that it will own, operate and build the highly anticipated rail link between Union Station and Pearson airport, after the province failed to reach an agreement with SNC-Lavalin.

It had long been expected that the private company would build and operate the premium rail service for the government.

“While the province and the Union Pearson Air-Link Group (UPAG), a subsidiary of SNC-Lavalin, were able to make significant progress negotiating, financial market conditions prevented acceptable terms,” Metrolinx said in a news release Friday. “The government will continue to work with UPAG to build on the design and development work that has been completed to date.”

Some residents along the Georgetown corridor have opposed the idea of a public-private air-rail link because they believe that the trains should operate as public transit, serving people who live along the line and proving affordable for those who work at the airport.

The residents would also like the electric rather than diesel locomotives to use the route, saying they fear the expanded rail traffic will spew harmful pollutants into their neighbourhoods.

More at The Star:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/842240--province-to-run-rail-lin...

This is a positive change of

This is a positive change of direction. Now that the province is running the ARL it should be cheaper and not cloaked in secrecy. "Should be" is the key qualifier. Public transit should be publicly owned, it's good for democracy. The bad news is, what did it cost us to get out of the deal? Wonder if this announcement has something to do with the new CEO coming in...

This decision vindicates what

This decision vindicates what citizens have been saying from day one about this dumb SNC idea. Why GO was not the first choice years ago boggles the mind. Public transit should be run as a public service and not as a for profit monopoly.

You have to wonder what "financial market conditions prevented acceptable terms, really means. Is it cover for the gov to just kill the deal because they knew the details (which would come out eventually) would anger the public during an election year? Or is it true and if so then it tends to support Steve Munros contention that a premium service was not sustainable and that GO's numbers are inflated which spells trouble for the link (only 17% of users come from downtown currently and how much of that number--a few years old---have switched to the much cheaper and more hassle free Porter Air?).There are many transit advocates online today saying that this means the link is dead. I am not so sure but I have always felt that the demand for the air link was vastly overstated.

The good news for us is that this shows that the Gov does feel pressure, especially as an election looms and now with only one group in charge of the entire corridor project MX has no boogyman to hide behind anymore: every diesel cloud stops at their desk. FRom a technical standpoint electrification has never been more possible.

GO running hte show

GO was not allowed to run the ARL. They were excluded from the bidding process. It was a Federal condition imposed by David Collenette when he was Minister of Transport, 2003 I think.

Dalton's Dirty Diesel

Dalton runs the show now. Dalton's Dirty Diesel now fits better than ever.

Wait till you all hear (I mean see) what Tony Ruprechts campaign staff are telling residents about electrification. I wont have time to post until later this week. Prepare to be amazed, or confused. : )

Environment Minister Axed

Ontario Minister of the Environment John Gerretsen was demoted today in the provincial cabinet shuffle. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/mcguintys-shuffle-puts-fres... Glad to see him go! Gerretsen was the Minister who gave Metrolinx the approval to expand diesel train service on the Georgetown corridor with the "stringent" condition that they use technology that doesn't even exist, tier 4 diesel engines. Let's hope the new minister isn't a fraud like his predecessor.

GO has no excuse now

John Gerretsen was not truthful to to the public and never had the courage to meet residents effected by the Liberals scattershot "green" plan. Here is what could be done if common sense prevailed.

GO could start to build for electrification right now (25 years late).

GO could build right now the last bit of line to the airport and have a route running for the Pan Am games (3 weeks).

Go would transition to electric trains as the line is ready, slowly fading out the diesel.

There is no need to buy an unknown unproven polluting technology (that will only be used for 15 years) at all when they cam go to electric AND satisfy the airport link for PanAm AND serve the airport.

With SNC Lavlin gone GO and Dalton have no excuse anymore except their own lack of vision and ability.

Metrolinx

Did anyone hear that Metrolinx wants to delay to opening of the Dufferin Jog, add another set of tracks and prevent the expansion of the Railpath? I hope this doesn't go through.

Dufferin Jog Railpath 2

That is not what is going on with Metrolinx.

Metrolinx and the City have differing views as to how busy the bridge over the Dufferin Jog will be. Many transit experts feel that Metrolinx's projections are way too high and that the space available will be fine in the long term. Metrolinx thinks otherwise but it is worth noting that Metrolinxs keeps changing all of it numbers (usually downward) so the City has a point. The City and its planners have a right to their opinion and they feel the additional line is unneeded.

Another aspect to this is cost and we could go on for days talking about issues with where transit funding is coming from but rest assured some of this turf battle has to do with making the other guy pay more of the bill.

In terms of Railpath Metrolinx has been open and helpful about figuring out a way to make it work. We have had meetings with them and the City and there is a lot of support to get things done. Lets be clear though about Railpath and the Dufferin jog (and other locations): REGARDLESS of how many lines are on the Dufferin jog there will be some fancy footwork to get Railpath over the bridge.ALL parties involved are committed to making it happen. For example one solution is to attach a bike/predestrian bridge to the jog bridge and another option (that may be cheaper) is to build a new bike/predestrian bridge on its own. There are a few worst case scenarios but nobody is even close to going there yet. There is also a similar issue at King.

Candidate Ana Bailao has tried to make some political hay about this issue in the National Post as part of her anti-Giambrone obsession but she doesnt have the facts straight about what is going on behind the scenes and in fact is getting in the way of letting Railpath/City/Metrolinx quietly and un-politically figure things out by wrapping it in rhetoric especially since Giambrone was very helpful in getting stage one Railpath done (and further improvements this fall).

Building railroads and railpaths is a very big and complicated task as it is and local citizens are at the table. I think that Metrolinx is still way behind the times on diesel but they are behind Railpath. Politicians, and political wannabees, support Railpath and otherwise butt out.

Dufferin Jog

Thanks for the update. I am glad that you have clarified things. Let's hope that everything goes ahead as planned.

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