Junction Triangle

Ana Said:
“I’m not even contemplating that at the moment. We need to see what data city staff come up with… I do have lot of residents saying things have gotten worse since the bike lanes went in. Sometimes perception can be different from the reality. We want to get the public involved. We need to formalize a consultation that will include the cyclists, the people in the neighbourhood, the business owners.”

This is not the first time rumors were started about bike lanes and people. Like the one about Ana doesn't like Bike lanes. I think this person needs to retract as well. JF

Didn't read the Now article, never read their paper before, so I wound not know.

Anyhow will wait to hear back from the Mayors office to again, Clarify. It's better to hear it from the players someone inside, rather then just here say.

For me it's about the process and consultation. Once we hear from all side those in favour, against and those in the middle then one can move forwarding with adding or removing bike lanes. This is what is important to me and I fell others in the community and across the City feel the same way.

People who spend 2 hours a day in their car should consider taking public transit and not use my area as a freeway. Public transit is cheaper than owning car anyway.

If Dupont is congested at 8am and 5 pm its called "rush hour" and exists all over the City and has so for years and will never go away so why delude yourself. If people dont like it they can walk or take public transit or other options.

I and many other residents wanted bike lanes and traffic calming shoved down our throats. I have been asking for it for 9 years. Thats right people in our area wanted them because it would make the area better. As usual everybody else seems to know whats going on and is involved....why are you so out of the loop all the time? Even some of local businesses on Dupont wanted bike lanes.Frankly the "left wing ideology" argument is wearing a bit thin for the families of our area who are enjoying the improvements at Campbell Rink, the Railpath, Perth Park Party, and bike lanes on Dupont, the new Boys and Girls Club site: all free. I am not sure if you have noticed the inherent contradiction of all your posts, you claim to stand up for the poor and suffering but support a right wing agenda. Last time I checked the right wing in not a friend of the poor, the immigrant, or the disadvantaged. Under Mike Harris even the middle class were under attack as hospitals closed and services were cut.

Seriously Jack, lets pretend you are running for council or Mayor. What exactly would YOU do to make this a better community and City? I want to hear your 10 point plan of things that you want to do. Or is it all some ideological grudge? Is people driving cars from Richmond Hill through our area more important than street life for the people who actually live here ? Should we rip up Railpath and close the Boys and Girls Club? Lay out your priorities and how they would be good for our community. There is an election this fall why don't you try out your ideas in the public market place for a change; get in the spot light and see how you do for a change.

Do the words "sense of entitlement" mean anything to you cyclists who care primarily about yourselves and your convenience, and believe the city by-laws are farcical and shouldn't apply to you? There are a few cyclists who do walk their bikes on the sidewalks and through crosswalks at traffic lights, and stop for red lights. From what I've observed, they are in the minority.

Pedestrianism is the most basic mode of transit. Before there were wheels, there were pedestrians. We were here before cars and bikes. But we're the most vulnerable. The bicycle is a relatively recent invention; there's no reason that people using such vehicles should displace or inconvenience pedestrians (and their dogs that they're walking, and their tiny children who are fledgling pedestrians and could easily be hurt, even by a slow-moving bike). Bicycles shouldn't be ridden on the sidewalk AT ANY SPEED, unless by children who haven't yet learned to navigate in traffic.

Cyclists who say that pedestrians must share with them are showing their true colours; they think themselves superior because they're using the most convenient, fastest method of low-cost transportation. If they're doing so LAWFULLY, good for them. I'm all for it. If they do so unlawfully and expect pedestrians to defer to them, they can take their sense of entitlement and shove it up their inner tubes. If they would exchange that sense of entitlement for a sense of decency and fairness, I wouldn't bother with these screeds (to which cyclists like this one respond with self-serving responses disguised as well-thought-out arguments).

And cyclists don't have only the choice of driving a car or being on a bike. They can walk or take public transit. If they don't consider those options good enough, then maybe they really do think they're entitled to their speed and convenience, and that they shouldn't have to slog along like these dullards who put up with the cruddiness of other TTC riders or go plodding along the sidewalks like zombies. Like, wow, those people are so lame! Don't they know that people who ride bikes are gods, with ripped bods and superior cardiovascular systems, razor-sharp brains and lightning reflexes -- a race of superior beings, in fact?

Well, sorry, as a sidewalk plodder who knows it's too dangerous to ride a bike in the city and only does so in the country, way up north where there's hardly any traffic. I'd have to say I don't consider you superior at all. YOU make pedestrians out to be the selfish ones -- how self-serving is that?

When the City of Toronto drops the bylaw, THEN pedestrians will be legally obligated to share sidewalks with you. But right now, even though the bylaw is rarely enforced and is probably no deterrent anyway, they are not, and don't tell them they are. People with a sense of entitlement always do try to justify their boorishness by means of manipulation. That's what you did in your post, and that's what I've heard from cyclists time and again.

You're full of it, and you're wrong.

So some idiot on a bike pissed you off. Get over it.
Check out what cars do:
http://www.thestar.com/staticcontent/810060

Going under the railway tracks cars often pinch the side in the corner. Things like that discourage people from riding at all. There is a bit of a chicken and egg issue where bike lanes don't seem worthwhile unless there are lots of bikes, but people won't ride bikes if they feel they are risking their lives.
You have to start somewhere. When you do, the first week the traffic will be the worst since people have not started to adjust their routes. I would think traffic would normalize in a week or so but it may take longer before you start seeing significant number of bikes.
Many of the existing bike lanes don't connect very far, I've used Harbord quite a bit but what do you do when it stops. I am guessing the city used Dupont so they could get a fairly long continuous connection without giving up lanes on a more major street like Bloor.