You can rarely smell the gelatin factory on wallace. It seems to mostly blow south to the poor folks living on paton and accross from it on Lansdowne. I walk my dog along wallace every day and in the last two years have only been stopped for Go Trains on those tracks twice. I wouldn't worry about either the gelatin or the train to be honest.
I don't live at Wallace and Rankin (more like Symington and Paton), but here are some of my own observations and comments:
Overall, the neighbourhood is great. I love it here. So glad we made the decision to move here.
Nitta Gelatin has its stinky days, especially if the wind is from the east. Fortunately, it typically blows west/south. Personally, the smell isn't really that bad to me (i.e. not gag-inducing or anything), but I also don't deal with it from as close-by regularly. Hanging out near your potential home to catch a whiff might be hit-or-miss, as it's not often that it's super noticeable.
Hello and happy holidays to everyone.
We would like to inform you all that we are now open daily
Serving coffee.mate baked goods and selling used goods.Please drop in and say hello.business hours will be posted after the holidays.
We are gratefull and honored to be part of the junction triagle.thank u
And hope to see u all in the near future.
I did notice you were referring to specific people and posts. Those specific posts engage in ad hominem attacks based primarily on the fact that someone is an anarchist. Someone pointed out that this is invalid, to which you responded that someone being an anarchist is a valid consideration, that it goes to motive. But how can this be? What are the motives?
Thanks for the first year university lesson. I passed it some time ago though.
If you read my posting carefully you would note that I am referring to specific people, posts, and videos and not talking about anarchism in the broad sense. All the people you list were anarchists, or influenced anarchism ( although in my opinion Thoreau was not an anarchist at all) but they are not part of what this thread is about. I am just using the terms that people are using to define themselves as seen in their own writing and video. If they are giving anarchism a bad name then whose fault is that?
Your idea of anarchism is flawed. It appears you think all anarchists are of the black bloc property destruction variety. This is far from the truth. Most anarchists are non-violent.
Among famous anarchists we have:
Lao Tzu ('founder' of Taoism, probably the oldest known anarchist, would be what we describe as green anarchist)
Mohandas Ghandi (you know who he is)
Leo Tolstoy (who wrote War and Peace)
J.R.R. Tolkien (who wrote Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit)
Noam Chomsky (famous linguist and philosopher)
Albert Camus (famous author and philosopher)
Max Stirner (philosopher, unionist)
Rudolph Rocker (philosopher, unionist)
Jean Paul Sartre (philosopher, fought the Nazis in the French resistance as a communist, later became anarchist)
Michel Foucault (philosopher)
Jacques Derrida (philosopher)
Henry David Thoreau (philosopher and author, influenced Ghandi)
Mother Jones (unionist)
Thus, if being an anarchist proves motives of violence, then what do you have to say about Ghandi, for example? The truth is that being an anarchist says nothing about a person's views on violence or property destruction. For that you have to ASK the person what their stance is on violence. Further, an anarchist is more likely to be peaceful and non-violent compared to, say, a Conservative.
Also, anyone who believes that power corrupts has anarchistic tendencies. If you also reject corrupt power, congratulations, you're an anarchist. Most people lead fairly peaceful lives based on consensual communal arrangements between themselves and others, not based on authoritative FORCE and COERCION, and this is a cornerstone of anarchism, the rejection of authority and power.
I understand this point of view to a degree but...If good is happening, which it appears it is, then I really don't care about the background of the story. Bottom line is it's a lot better then what has gone on at that building previously.
Exactly! How is it possible this man receives a grant to re-pair his own mess? Who can we contact to complain? I mean why is it if he is running a business and it ultimately goes into disrepair under his watch provincial funds go towards rewarding his negligence? I'm tired of the bailouts. It's his responsibility to clean up the place why are funds that could go elsewhere being used for a man that obviously has the resources to pay for things himself. Shameful!
The problems in Barrasso's buildings started in the late 90's. Mario Silva was our councillor from 1994 to 2003. Part of the problem was that the only option the city had was to take them over and become a landlord which it was reluctant to do. You can find some stories online from that time.
I am happy to see them fixed up and people who need housing in there but I cant still cant help but feel that Barrasso is being rewarded for bad behavior.
This man should be in Jail, he is not fit to own such properties. He is a crook only there for the money. It was sad the way he has treated his tenants. Also our previous City Councillor and the City should take some blame for what happened and responsibility for this landlord of hell. Everyone knew the state of the apartments and this landlord and they let it go on. Shame on them( past councillor, the City and everyone eles responsible for these vulnerable people) Jack
I have bittersweet feelings about Solways closing. I'll miss seeing dinosaurs while walking on the Railpath and how my kids were always in awe over the claw that picked up huge piles of metal.
One of the people involved in running last Saturday's meeting was an anarchist named Ashleigh Ingle. She was working very closely with Jonah Schein, and had some conversation with Andrew Cash in the middle of the panel. This all makes sense when we study Schein's history- he's played dirty tricks with the anarchist Ontation Coalition Against Poverty.
It's hard to be certain- but it looks like some dirty tricks may be being played here...
Streetview really captured a great moment in time here. It was a weekday morning, in August 2011. Ernest Ave. was packed with trucks, the sweeper guy was out working hard (they even managed to miss censoring his face in one of the views), other Solways workers are checking out the Streetview car, the Georgetown GO train is pulling into Bloor station.... and everything has a nice glow to it from the sunrise.
There are many things I will actually miss about Solways. Having some rough-around-the-edges type of business still working here gives this neighbourhood some character. I enjoyed watching the trucks and heavy machinery moving piles of metal around, especially with my son. And I'm not the only one....It's funny how often I'd see parents with their kids hanging out watching the show! Sometimes you'd see large, strange metal objects stored there. And who can forget the dinosaurs?
Solways also provided a valuable service for people in the neighbourhood and from elsewhere. It was convenient for anyone who wanted to get some cash for recycling metal rather than throwing it out. Even the scrap collectors patrolling our laneways do a valuable service. I never throw out any kind of recyclable metal into the garbage...it gets separated and put in the lane, because I know someone will take it, recycle it, and earn some money for doing so. This kind of "service" will likely slow down a bit once the scrapyard isn't so close-by.
I keep bumping into artists, especially anyone who does sculpture, who sing the praises of Solways for buying new metal and for finding really interesting odd'n'ends to put into their works. They will miss this place.
Of course, I won't miss the trucks on Symington and Ernest (especially those who decide to do crazy/dangerous stuff like back up down the block without a spotter during the morning school rush). I won't miss the noise and dust either (and I'm sure the "Brownstones" residents would agree). No more fires here, I hope. And I can live without the more enthusiastic scrappers who steal wire, building materials, or other stuff that can be carted away quickly for good money. I can't imagine how badly contaminated the ground is under that site too.
True story... it's definitely El Almacen going in where Barcelona Appliances used to be.
However, they are more focused on yerba mate, which is like a South American tea. It's really good.
The convenience store next door seems to be papered up too...? Anyone hear anything about that?
If the plant were not at Lansdowne and Dupont, what are the chances that a processing facility of this type would even think about applying to be situated in the downtown core of the city?
That's right: zip. It is just too stupid an idea, regardless of whether or not you support nuclear power.
The only real question is whether the citizens can overcome their Canadian inertia to say: relocate!
That's the heart of my argument. Here is some background: The safety claims of the plant mirror those of the nuclear industry. There is nothing to worry about IF we believe their risk analysis and IF they are able to follow their safety protocols and IF those safety protocols are adequate. Personally, I think it should be OBVIOUS that SHIT HAPPENS and that people make mistakes. Therefore, fail safe systems and safety considerations have to include the possibility that accidents WILL happen. It IS as simple as wondering what happens if a truck carrying uranium capsizes or burns, which is ENTIRELY feasible. Moreover, dust does escape the plant during its normal operationand it is admitted that it does. Then, you have to decide whether or not you accept that the risk associated with this dust is as low as the industry states and if that risk is acceptable. These are not decisions that should be made FOR us but BY us. Yeah, I live pretty close by. Plus, the processing creates waste. Is this waste safe? IF you believe the company, it is. Are they credible, or is there a conflict of interest? All of this says to me nuclear at all stages is too risky. Move the plant. And, while we are at it, put a moratorium on nuclear power and institute a phase out, like those uneducated countries such as GERMANY are doing (uneducated, technologically illiterate backwards European democracy--why don't they listen obediently to their technocrats and industrialists like we Canadians do?)
Thanks Scott,
I guess you would know all about Solways and it's history more then anyone eles in the JT according to your neighbours, to what I been told by them. It's Bitters sweet. Best thing that could of happen to the community/JT and to those who owners who bought next to Solways on wallace. What an eye sore it must be to look out the window and see a mountain of metal. JF
When Jack Fava and I agree on something you know its right !
And remember the weekly fires? Or the Solways 18 wheeler that knocked down the traffic lights on Bloor?
Solways has had many negative influences on the community over the years and thankfully there was a crossing guard at Ernest for the kids. The Solways mess was created with good intentions but it came back to haunt the City. While people are sad about locals loosing their jobs everybody is still happy to see them go.
You can rarely smell the gelatin factory on wallace. It seems to mostly blow south to the poor folks living on paton and accross from it on Lansdowne. I walk my dog along wallace every day and in the last two years have only been stopped for Go Trains on those tracks twice. I wouldn't worry about either the gelatin or the train to be honest.
I don't live at Wallace and Rankin (more like Symington and Paton), but here are some of my own observations and comments:
Overall, the neighbourhood is great. I love it here. So glad we made the decision to move here.
Nitta Gelatin has its stinky days, especially if the wind is from the east. Fortunately, it typically blows west/south. Personally, the smell isn't really that bad to me (i.e. not gag-inducing or anything), but I also don't deal with it from as close-by regularly. Hanging out near your potential home to catch a whiff might be hit-or-miss, as it's not often that it's super noticeable.
The trains shouldn't be a big deal for now. Only 5 trains in the morning and evening. First one a little before 7:00am. You can see the schedules here (we're between the Union Station and York U stops)...
Morning: http://www.gotransit.com/publicroot/en/schedules/pubsched.aspx?table=65&...
Evening: http://www.gotransit.com/publicroot/en/schedules/pubsched.aspx?table=65&...
No weekend GO service now, though they experimented with limited weekend service last summer.
There's also the occasional VIA train. No freight on that line.
There are long-term plans to double-track that line and increase service, but that seems to be permanently delayed.
I'm also guessing there's a big difference in train noise depending on which side of Rankin you're on.
In all honesty, there's probably more overall bus noise on Symington than train noise on Rankin.
Hope this helps. Let us know if you have any other questions.
Hello and happy holidays to everyone.
We would like to inform you all that we are now open daily
Serving coffee.mate baked goods and selling used goods.Please drop in and say hello.business hours will be posted after the holidays.
We are gratefull and honored to be part of the junction triagle.thank u
And hope to see u all in the near future.
I did notice you were referring to specific people and posts. Those specific posts engage in ad hominem attacks based primarily on the fact that someone is an anarchist. Someone pointed out that this is invalid, to which you responded that someone being an anarchist is a valid consideration, that it goes to motive. But how can this be? What are the motives?
Thanks for the first year university lesson. I passed it some time ago though.
If you read my posting carefully you would note that I am referring to specific people, posts, and videos and not talking about anarchism in the broad sense. All the people you list were anarchists, or influenced anarchism ( although in my opinion Thoreau was not an anarchist at all) but they are not part of what this thread is about. I am just using the terms that people are using to define themselves as seen in their own writing and video. If they are giving anarchism a bad name then whose fault is that?
Your idea of anarchism is flawed. It appears you think all anarchists are of the black bloc property destruction variety. This is far from the truth. Most anarchists are non-violent.
Among famous anarchists we have:
Lao Tzu ('founder' of Taoism, probably the oldest known anarchist, would be what we describe as green anarchist)
Mohandas Ghandi (you know who he is)
Leo Tolstoy (who wrote War and Peace)
J.R.R. Tolkien (who wrote Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit)
Noam Chomsky (famous linguist and philosopher)
Albert Camus (famous author and philosopher)
Max Stirner (philosopher, unionist)
Rudolph Rocker (philosopher, unionist)
Jean Paul Sartre (philosopher, fought the Nazis in the French resistance as a communist, later became anarchist)
Michel Foucault (philosopher)
Jacques Derrida (philosopher)
Henry David Thoreau (philosopher and author, influenced Ghandi)
Mother Jones (unionist)
Thus, if being an anarchist proves motives of violence, then what do you have to say about Ghandi, for example? The truth is that being an anarchist says nothing about a person's views on violence or property destruction. For that you have to ASK the person what their stance is on violence. Further, an anarchist is more likely to be peaceful and non-violent compared to, say, a Conservative.
Also, anyone who believes that power corrupts has anarchistic tendencies. If you also reject corrupt power, congratulations, you're an anarchist. Most people lead fairly peaceful lives based on consensual communal arrangements between themselves and others, not based on authoritative FORCE and COERCION, and this is a cornerstone of anarchism, the rejection of authority and power.
I understand this point of view to a degree but...If good is happening, which it appears it is, then I really don't care about the background of the story. Bottom line is it's a lot better then what has gone on at that building previously.
Exactly! How is it possible this man receives a grant to re-pair his own mess? Who can we contact to complain? I mean why is it if he is running a business and it ultimately goes into disrepair under his watch provincial funds go towards rewarding his negligence? I'm tired of the bailouts. It's his responsibility to clean up the place why are funds that could go elsewhere being used for a man that obviously has the resources to pay for things himself. Shameful!
The problems in Barrasso's buildings started in the late 90's. Mario Silva was our councillor from 1994 to 2003. Part of the problem was that the only option the city had was to take them over and become a landlord which it was reluctant to do. You can find some stories online from that time.
I am happy to see them fixed up and people who need housing in there but I cant still cant help but feel that Barrasso is being rewarded for bad behavior.
This man should be in Jail, he is not fit to own such properties. He is a crook only there for the money. It was sad the way he has treated his tenants. Also our previous City Councillor and the City should take some blame for what happened and responsibility for this landlord of hell. Everyone knew the state of the apartments and this landlord and they let it go on. Shame on them( past councillor, the City and everyone eles responsible for these vulnerable people) Jack
The Toronto Star has a story about the apartment building at 1011 Lansdowne and efforts to make it better. http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1303079---odd-bedfellows-make-ni...
I have bittersweet feelings about Solways closing. I'll miss seeing dinosaurs while walking on the Railpath and how my kids were always in awe over the claw that picked up huge piles of metal.
So goes the evolution of our neighbourhood...
Via a friend on Facebook:
I've taken it down while I confirm some information...
One of the people involved in running last Saturday's meeting was an anarchist named Ashleigh Ingle. She was working very closely with Jonah Schein, and had some conversation with Andrew Cash in the middle of the panel. This all makes sense when we study Schein's history- he's played dirty tricks with the anarchist Ontation Coalition Against Poverty.
It's hard to be certain- but it looks like some dirty tricks may be being played here...
http://www.genuinewitty.com/2012/12/12/ge-hitachi-andrew-cash-jonah-sche...
see the above post!
I was just browsing around on Google Streetview in front of Solways:
http://goo.gl/maps/OwaVs
Streetview really captured a great moment in time here. It was a weekday morning, in August 2011. Ernest Ave. was packed with trucks, the sweeper guy was out working hard (they even managed to miss censoring his face in one of the views), other Solways workers are checking out the Streetview car, the Georgetown GO train is pulling into Bloor station.... and everything has a nice glow to it from the sunrise.
There are many things I will actually miss about Solways. Having some rough-around-the-edges type of business still working here gives this neighbourhood some character. I enjoyed watching the trucks and heavy machinery moving piles of metal around, especially with my son. And I'm not the only one....It's funny how often I'd see parents with their kids hanging out watching the show! Sometimes you'd see large, strange metal objects stored there. And who can forget the dinosaurs?
Solways also provided a valuable service for people in the neighbourhood and from elsewhere. It was convenient for anyone who wanted to get some cash for recycling metal rather than throwing it out. Even the scrap collectors patrolling our laneways do a valuable service. I never throw out any kind of recyclable metal into the garbage...it gets separated and put in the lane, because I know someone will take it, recycle it, and earn some money for doing so. This kind of "service" will likely slow down a bit once the scrapyard isn't so close-by.
I keep bumping into artists, especially anyone who does sculpture, who sing the praises of Solways for buying new metal and for finding really interesting odd'n'ends to put into their works. They will miss this place.
Of course, I won't miss the trucks on Symington and Ernest (especially those who decide to do crazy/dangerous stuff like back up down the block without a spotter during the morning school rush). I won't miss the noise and dust either (and I'm sure the "Brownstones" residents would agree). No more fires here, I hope. And I can live without the more enthusiastic scrappers who steal wire, building materials, or other stuff that can be carted away quickly for good money. I can't imagine how badly contaminated the ground is under that site too.
So long....farewell.
Thanks to all those who run and organise this!!!
Yes I know they do yerba mate, but their coffee is pretty darn good too! Seems a few store fronts are in the midst of construction...exciting!
Yes, CTC knew about the meeting but as it had been arranged by JTRC and we were not on the invite list, we looked forward to hearing the good news.
True story... it's definitely El Almacen going in where Barcelona Appliances used to be.
However, they are more focused on yerba mate, which is like a South American tea. It's really good.
The convenience store next door seems to be papered up too...? Anyone hear anything about that?
http://www.postcity.com/Eat-Shop-Do/Eat/October-2012/El-Almacen-is-bring...
If the plant were not at Lansdowne and Dupont, what are the chances that a processing facility of this type would even think about applying to be situated in the downtown core of the city?
That's right: zip. It is just too stupid an idea, regardless of whether or not you support nuclear power.
The only real question is whether the citizens can overcome their Canadian inertia to say: relocate!
That's the heart of my argument. Here is some background: The safety claims of the plant mirror those of the nuclear industry. There is nothing to worry about IF we believe their risk analysis and IF they are able to follow their safety protocols and IF those safety protocols are adequate. Personally, I think it should be OBVIOUS that SHIT HAPPENS and that people make mistakes. Therefore, fail safe systems and safety considerations have to include the possibility that accidents WILL happen. It IS as simple as wondering what happens if a truck carrying uranium capsizes or burns, which is ENTIRELY feasible. Moreover, dust does escape the plant during its normal operationand it is admitted that it does. Then, you have to decide whether or not you accept that the risk associated with this dust is as low as the industry states and if that risk is acceptable. These are not decisions that should be made FOR us but BY us. Yeah, I live pretty close by. Plus, the processing creates waste. Is this waste safe? IF you believe the company, it is. Are they credible, or is there a conflict of interest? All of this says to me nuclear at all stages is too risky. Move the plant. And, while we are at it, put a moratorium on nuclear power and institute a phase out, like those uneducated countries such as GERMANY are doing (uneducated, technologically illiterate backwards European democracy--why don't they listen obediently to their technocrats and industrialists like we Canadians do?)
Thanks Scott,
I guess you would know all about Solways and it's history more then anyone eles in the JT according to your neighbours, to what I been told by them. It's Bitters sweet. Best thing that could of happen to the community/JT and to those who owners who bought next to Solways on wallace. What an eye sore it must be to look out the window and see a mountain of metal. JF
When Jack Fava and I agree on something you know its right !
And remember the weekly fires? Or the Solways 18 wheeler that knocked down the traffic lights on Bloor?
Solways has had many negative influences on the community over the years and thankfully there was a crossing guard at Ernest for the kids. The Solways mess was created with good intentions but it came back to haunt the City. While people are sad about locals loosing their jobs everybody is still happy to see them go.