I think its important to make sure the topics/questions selected do not just allow the candidates to parrot their platforms but are varied, diverse and simple so we really do get some answers.
Some suggestions:
1. POVERTY and HUNGER in the city are often overlooked in city elections. Over 30% of children in Toronto live in poverty (below Statistics Canada Low Income Cutoff). Daily Bread recently reported a 15% increase in food bank demand over the last year while the economy was supposedly strong.
What specific steps will you take to address poverty and hunger concerns in Toronto?
2, AFFORDABLE HOUSING and HOMELESSNESS continues to be a problem in Toronto. Expensive condominium developments have been booming and densities are increasing. Many wards are seeing 'gentrification' which generally means pushing out older generational family homes and upscaling. Despite the last administration's "Streets to Homes" program citizens can plainly see homeless people everywhere.
What specfic programs would you advocate to increase choice in affordable housing and to reduce homelessness?
3. Transportation as a topic seems to gravitate to specifics of TTC, car gridlock or cyclists. Yet, there have been many incidences of pedestrian injury caused by traffic accidents, some where people have needlessly lost their lives.
What specific steps would you take to increase PEDESTRIAN safety and security on our city streets?
These are just 3 areas that I think keep getting missed in election campaigns and I really wish they would be brought up more.
I don't think name calling or personal attacks are a good thing in any forum, so I hope people will just cool down a bit.
As to the choice of Sue-Ann Levy, the positives I see is that it will garner more attention for the debate and the ward as, like it or not, she has name recognition and will attract media stories.
On the negative side, I am personally one who cannot subscribe to much of her views and yes she is very partisan. (However, once in a while she uncovers or ferrets out corruption at city hall). She says, "You will get an honest, hard-hitting debate--maybe you'll even get some answers to some tough questions, not Pablum" Well, possibly as she is not easily intimidated and the mayoral candidates are heavy hitters.
As to inviting only the top 6, I invite you to reconsider and perhaps add 2 more with names drawn from a hat. The debate where Rocco Achampong and Keith Cole were there from all accounts enlivened the debate.
Just to Clarify ScottD and Jeff 's posting, Both Mike and Tony know that I don't support liberals, Tony has approached me on the same issue many times. I centered them both at one of the meet and greet one time.
Yes Mike did come down To JT as a request from me. I supported the Bill, not the MPP. I think it was a good Bill. I also requested it to be ammended which included to take not only their driver's Lic away, but also to inpound there car. It went to the 1st & 2nd reading, not sure if it was past, you can ask Cheri Dinovo.
Now Jeff regarding the signs, yes I had a Conservative sign and also a Green Party sign. I know and respect Theresa R. She is a good friend and would of made a good MP for Davenport, so would of the Green Party Candidate made a good MP. They both did well last election. JF
I have a suggestion, could the organizers please post up the list of moderators, they have compiled, for everyone to look over? If the organizers are truly open to changes in their process, perhaps an open discussion as to who the other possible moderators are, can be helpful for transparency's sake.
It's heating up in here again. Let's try to keep this conversation on-topic, civil, and constructive.
It sounds like the mayoral debate organizers are open to suggestions right now (and have been in the past), so let's try to work towards actually making the event better. Bringing up past grievances and tangential arguments isn't helping to move things forward.
Send suggestions for other moderators and debate topics/questions to the organizers, or post them here.
Apparently Jack doesn't vote Liberal but it didn't stop him from holding a press conference in 2009 in JT to support Liberal MPP Mike Colle's private members bill. And then Jack was promoting was the rally against guns sponsored by Tony "Diesel" Ruprecht another Liberal MPP.
The "memo" is called election results over the last 20 years lets say. I think you talked about people having a say and they have.The majority of people in this riding vote Liberal left and NDP left. You cannot argue with the votes cast in the election. So it is clear that the majority of people in this Ward, and I have lived in other parts of this ward, have concerns and issues that would not be of interest to a moderator who writes for a right wing newspaper and has publicly come out in support of a right wing candidate. Sue Ann Levy and her viewpoint couldnt get elected in this ward but somehow she has been chosen to represent us? I don't know how much clearer I can be.
In terms of running its you Jack that is always full of accusations about politicians but never run yourself. I dont think there is a person in JT who has been challenged more to put their money where their mouth is and run more than you but you never do. For the record all I have said about candidates is that the field is weak.
Not to get too off course but the Green Party in Canada is not the same as the one in Europe and in fact is pro business and somewhat libertarian-look it up. There have been quite a few battles between the older lefty Greens and some of the more recent Green leadership. To imply that the Green Party of Canada is left is not currently accurate; they are somewhat all over the map.
Green? Funny, I saw a blue Conservative sign on your house in the last election. And don't you work for a conservative Trustee? I guess we can't trust anything you say.
This debate is a community event. The next Mayor (as you well know) will affect the quality of life for ALL residents. There should be a process in place that lets the community have input. A process should be inclusive and fair. So far it's none of those things. That is disrespectful to the community. To behave in this fashion reveals that you do not value the opinions of the people in the community. The same goes for the secret food program for school kids. Who are you to think you can feed our children without any consultation with the parents?
Jack, when you say, "it seems that it's only about 10 or so people, all in JT who were oposed to Sue-Ann Levy been the moderator" are you using the comments on this site to crunch your numbers? In that case, only ONE person is FOR Sue-Ann Levy.
Who's calling the kettle black. The person that doesn't use there name, coward. You can say all you want it doesn't bug me, you should know this by now.
Yes I do have a list of past moderators and others possible moderator. Like I said, if you were listening there still 3 months before the debate, which you won't attend like the last one you boycotted. Right now I am receiving emails with concerns from residents, who want their concerns put forth to the Mayoral Candidates. The organizing team has decided to change the way we are going to choose the 4 questions. I need to talk to Donna and Richard from dig-in first. JF
The issue revolves around YOU again because you are NOT forthcoming with your answers. Who are the other moderators that are on the list you claim to have put together? Where are the others in your so-called small group of helpers and why are they not on this web site adding their opinion to this discussion about choosing a new moderator?
The deafening silence from the small group of helpers you claim to have is making others suspicious that it IS ONLY YOU who is choosing the moderator. Once again Jack Fava is proving that he doesn't play by the same rules he bullies others into doing by rumour mongering, misinformation through:
- posting up comments on various community web sites, easily viewed through an internet search
- the suspicious signage residents see on hydro poles, that spout out the same things you've been documented to say online
Perhaps, others should all perform the same tactics for a more honest discussion about choosing a debate moderator?
If your concern is putting on a good debate and doing something for the community, what is the problem with choosing a more acceptable moderator? If not one of the names put forward, someone else from the list of those you have considered?
Scottd said:
"I remind you that this ward does not elect conservative anything members---we vote Liberal Left"
I didn't realize we do it that way in this ward. I must of missed that memo. Scott I think you done some good work in the hood and people respect you, but where do you get off telling people how to vote. You have critized all the candidates, I don't see you running. Here is a challenge, why don't you run?? It's not to late. I'm sorry I wouldn't be able to vote for you because I don't vote Liberal Left. I like the green party personally. JF
Yup, that could be it. There are many photos in the archives documenting flaws in City infrastructure, homes that are falling apart, etc. So this could have been taken to document those gaps in the bridge. Some recent additions to the archives show cracked sidewalks on Wallace Ave., and broken asphalt on Perth Ave.
Although...it doesn't look that bad in the photo, and in 1916 the bridge was only about 8 years old, I think.
Look up some of Sue-Ann Levy's columns, she hates everything ward 18 is trying to do in terms of making the ward a greener, community focused, more livable place.
She calls people "socialists" and "anti-car-zealots" and then says she is a journalist. How about all of her recent columns about how great Rob Ford is and how great privatizing everything in the city will be. Or all of her stories criticizing George Smitherman and Joe Pantelone?
This doesn't sound like an unbiased moderator to me. She sounds like a member of Rob Fords Campaign team. In fact her paper, of which she is obliged to tow the editorial slant of, has been a non-stop backer of Councils right wing for years and this April featured a full front page story about how great Rob Ford was.
I don't care really what Sue-Ann Levy thinks, that's her business, but her values don't represent what I think the values of this ward are, and I remind you that this ward does not elect conservative anything members---we vote Liberal Left. I want somebody moderating who reflects our values and knows our issues; isnt an involved ward 18 resident good enough to moderate?
It doesn't matter that all the candidates are o.k. with Sue-Ann Levy -- NONE of those candidates have been elected to represent Ward 18. Yes this becomes about YOU again because you stick your nose into everyone's business and yet expect your projects to only be about the issue.
RE: "I also let many others in the ward know and it seems that it's only about 10 or so people, all in JT who were oposed to Sue-Ann Levy..."
To be fair about the FB process, and it's documented online that only you and Virginia were the most viciously vocal about that project. How do YOU KNOW that all the other 10 people opposed to Sue-Ann Levy were not getting feedback from others in the community, questioning her as moderator? You make plenty of excuses when the spotlight is on you. You bully others to live by what YOU THINK is the ONLY way to do produce a community event then find many excuses why the same rules don't apply to you and why you think you are above from others.
RE: "The hours, the flyers, posters, calling and emailing candidates and getting a venue is all volunteer and money coming from me. I don't have sponsors and many people to help out other then a few. "
That's no excuse for your past behaviour towards other community groups' projects, not just FB, but everything anybody else does that you don't initiate. EVERYONE spends plenty of volunteer time working on their individual projects and the main opposition ALWAYS come from YOU. Why is it that you don't have many people helping you out? Why? Is it because NO ONE really wants to work with someone who can't compromise and forces his methods on others? You can ask for sponsorship yourself, but be prepared to live by the same scrutiny you have thrown on so many others in this community. YOU are NOT ABOVE it all.
Like I told Vic, before I told everyone else about the debate and who the moderator was. I mentioned it to the Mayoral Candidates. None of the 6 candidates had any objections or concern, which was important for the debate to continue. I also let many others in the ward know and it seems that it's only about 10 or so people, all in JT who were oposed to Sue-Ann Levy been the moderator. I am not sure if this is about Sue-Ann Levy or something else. I also been hearing this been compared to FB incident, you cannot compare the two.
Remember all the questions been put forward to the candidates are coming from the residents.
I also heard concerns about the other debate I organized, about the moderator. It wasn't perfect, but it worked. Beside Vic and Katie the same people who have concerns did not show or boycotted he first debate I organized.
Eli Malinsky is doing a debate. I didn't hear any complaints towards him, nor do I believe that he need to ask for permission to do a debate.
The other thing I said to Vic since he was the one who brought this concern up, there is still a few months left. I will sit on this for a bit. I did let Sue-Ann Levy know and her response who be pasted at the end of this email.
I have already started to received some questions from residents and others who have concerbs and questions they would like to see put forward to the Mayoral Candidates. Few from CTC and also from others. None expressed any objection about Sue-ann Levy
I want to finish off by saying that this ward is big enough to do more debates and I encourage others to do that. There is nothing to gain by doing this debate. Other then to get the residents a chance to voice there concerns and put ward18 up in the map.
The hours, the flyers, posters, calling and emailing candidates and getting a venue is all volunteer and money coming from me. I don't have sponsors and many people to help out other then a few.
I have a list of people that I called to be a moderator. People who are in media or journalism. I was looking for a outsider a complete stranger to do something big like this.. Will keep you posted.
Please see Sue-Ann Levy response:
Jack,
I'm offering my services -- for free.
You will get an honest, hard-hitting debate--maybe you'll even get some answers to some tough questions, not Pablum.
All the best,
Sue-Ann
Let's not let this spiral into another ugly community argument. The fact is the choice for moderator is extremely unpopular. Jack, you mention above "I am looking for feed back and input from individuals and groups with-in the ward" and here you have it! Time to choose a new moderator and move on to what will hopefully be yet another successful event. I know from my Fuzzy Boundaries involvement that it is difficult to back track, but when we heard from residents that they wanted a community vote rather than a panel analyzing votes of the first round, we changed the process to address the residents' concerns.
You'll have to talk with Jack Fava about that. There was no process. No consultation, no democracy. Of course Jack demands it from everyone else when they want to do something, but those requirements don't apply to him it seems.
I may be a bit behind on this forum with regard to who will be moderating the event. I would like to know one thing ... who on Earth suggested Sue-Anne Levy for this and how did her name get this far in the process????? This woman is the antithisis of objective and would really make a mockery of the debate. How did it get this far. It is however sometimes good to know what the enemy is up to no?
I think its important to make sure the topics/questions selected do not just allow the candidates to parrot their platforms but are varied, diverse and simple so we really do get some answers.
Some suggestions:
1. POVERTY and HUNGER in the city are often overlooked in city elections. Over 30% of children in Toronto live in poverty (below Statistics Canada Low Income Cutoff). Daily Bread recently reported a 15% increase in food bank demand over the last year while the economy was supposedly strong.
What specific steps will you take to address poverty and hunger concerns in Toronto?
2, AFFORDABLE HOUSING and HOMELESSNESS continues to be a problem in Toronto. Expensive condominium developments have been booming and densities are increasing. Many wards are seeing 'gentrification' which generally means pushing out older generational family homes and upscaling. Despite the last administration's "Streets to Homes" program citizens can plainly see homeless people everywhere.
What specfic programs would you advocate to increase choice in affordable housing and to reduce homelessness?
3. Transportation as a topic seems to gravitate to specifics of TTC, car gridlock or cyclists. Yet, there have been many incidences of pedestrian injury caused by traffic accidents, some where people have needlessly lost their lives.
What specific steps would you take to increase PEDESTRIAN safety and security on our city streets?
These are just 3 areas that I think keep getting missed in election campaigns and I really wish they would be brought up more.
2.
I don't think name calling or personal attacks are a good thing in any forum, so I hope people will just cool down a bit.
As to the choice of Sue-Ann Levy, the positives I see is that it will garner more attention for the debate and the ward as, like it or not, she has name recognition and will attract media stories.
On the negative side, I am personally one who cannot subscribe to much of her views and yes she is very partisan. (However, once in a while she uncovers or ferrets out corruption at city hall). She says, "You will get an honest, hard-hitting debate--maybe you'll even get some answers to some tough questions, not Pablum" Well, possibly as she is not easily intimidated and the mayoral candidates are heavy hitters.
As to inviting only the top 6, I invite you to reconsider and perhaps add 2 more with names drawn from a hat. The debate where Rocco Achampong and Keith Cole were there from all accounts enlivened the debate.
Just my thoughts.
Just to Clarify ScottD and Jeff 's posting, Both Mike and Tony know that I don't support liberals, Tony has approached me on the same issue many times. I centered them both at one of the meet and greet one time.
Yes Mike did come down To JT as a request from me. I supported the Bill, not the MPP. I think it was a good Bill. I also requested it to be ammended which included to take not only their driver's Lic away, but also to inpound there car. It went to the 1st & 2nd reading, not sure if it was past, you can ask Cheri Dinovo.
Now Jeff regarding the signs, yes I had a Conservative sign and also a Green Party sign. I know and respect Theresa R. She is a good friend and would of made a good MP for Davenport, so would of the Green Party Candidate made a good MP. They both did well last election. JF
http://co103w.col103.mail.live.com/default.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0
As of today, there are now officially 11 candidates running in Ward 18. Mohammad Muhit is the latest addition.
Only Ward 27, Toronto Centre-Rosedale, has more candidates running (13).
I have a suggestion, could the organizers please post up the list of moderators, they have compiled, for everyone to look over? If the organizers are truly open to changes in their process, perhaps an open discussion as to who the other possible moderators are, can be helpful for transparency's sake.
It's heating up in here again. Let's try to keep this conversation on-topic, civil, and constructive.
It sounds like the mayoral debate organizers are open to suggestions right now (and have been in the past), so let's try to work towards actually making the event better. Bringing up past grievances and tangential arguments isn't helping to move things forward.
Send suggestions for other moderators and debate topics/questions to the organizers, or post them here.
Apparently Jack doesn't vote Liberal but it didn't stop him from holding a press conference in 2009 in JT to support Liberal MPP Mike Colle's private members bill. And then Jack was promoting was the rally against guns sponsored by Tony "Diesel" Ruprecht another Liberal MPP.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21510434@N04/3374767340/
I guess Jack did get that lefty memo. : )
The "memo" is called election results over the last 20 years lets say. I think you talked about people having a say and they have.The majority of people in this riding vote Liberal left and NDP left. You cannot argue with the votes cast in the election. So it is clear that the majority of people in this Ward, and I have lived in other parts of this ward, have concerns and issues that would not be of interest to a moderator who writes for a right wing newspaper and has publicly come out in support of a right wing candidate. Sue Ann Levy and her viewpoint couldnt get elected in this ward but somehow she has been chosen to represent us? I don't know how much clearer I can be.
In terms of running its you Jack that is always full of accusations about politicians but never run yourself. I dont think there is a person in JT who has been challenged more to put their money where their mouth is and run more than you but you never do. For the record all I have said about candidates is that the field is weak.
Not to get too off course but the Green Party in Canada is not the same as the one in Europe and in fact is pro business and somewhat libertarian-look it up. There have been quite a few battles between the older lefty Greens and some of the more recent Green leadership. To imply that the Green Party of Canada is left is not currently accurate; they are somewhat all over the map.
Green? Funny, I saw a blue Conservative sign on your house in the last election. And don't you work for a conservative Trustee? I guess we can't trust anything you say.
This debate is a community event. The next Mayor (as you well know) will affect the quality of life for ALL residents. There should be a process in place that lets the community have input. A process should be inclusive and fair. So far it's none of those things. That is disrespectful to the community. To behave in this fashion reveals that you do not value the opinions of the people in the community. The same goes for the secret food program for school kids. Who are you to think you can feed our children without any consultation with the parents?
Jack, when you say, "it seems that it's only about 10 or so people, all in JT who were oposed to Sue-Ann Levy been the moderator" are you using the comments on this site to crunch your numbers? In that case, only ONE person is FOR Sue-Ann Levy.
Who's calling the kettle black. The person that doesn't use there name, coward. You can say all you want it doesn't bug me, you should know this by now.
Yes I do have a list of past moderators and others possible moderator. Like I said, if you were listening there still 3 months before the debate, which you won't attend like the last one you boycotted. Right now I am receiving emails with concerns from residents, who want their concerns put forth to the Mayoral Candidates. The organizing team has decided to change the way we are going to choose the 4 questions. I need to talk to Donna and Richard from dig-in first. JF
The issue revolves around YOU again because you are NOT forthcoming with your answers. Who are the other moderators that are on the list you claim to have put together? Where are the others in your so-called small group of helpers and why are they not on this web site adding their opinion to this discussion about choosing a new moderator?
The deafening silence from the small group of helpers you claim to have is making others suspicious that it IS ONLY YOU who is choosing the moderator. Once again Jack Fava is proving that he doesn't play by the same rules he bullies others into doing by rumour mongering, misinformation through:
- posting up comments on various community web sites, easily viewed through an internet search
- the suspicious signage residents see on hydro poles, that spout out the same things you've been documented to say online
Perhaps, others should all perform the same tactics for a more honest discussion about choosing a debate moderator?
If your concern is putting on a good debate and doing something for the community, what is the problem with choosing a more acceptable moderator? If not one of the names put forward, someone else from the list of those you have considered?
Scottd said:
"I remind you that this ward does not elect conservative anything members---we vote Liberal Left"
I didn't realize we do it that way in this ward. I must of missed that memo. Scott I think you done some good work in the hood and people respect you, but where do you get off telling people how to vote. You have critized all the candidates, I don't see you running. Here is a challenge, why don't you run?? It's not to late. I'm sorry I wouldn't be able to vote for you because I don't vote Liberal Left. I like the green party personally. JF
Yup, that could be it. There are many photos in the archives documenting flaws in City infrastructure, homes that are falling apart, etc. So this could have been taken to document those gaps in the bridge. Some recent additions to the archives show cracked sidewalks on Wallace Ave., and broken asphalt on Perth Ave.
Although...it doesn't look that bad in the photo, and in 1916 the bridge was only about 8 years old, I think.
Also it's not ALL the candidates, only 6. Which 6? Who will choose? Again this is not democratic and there has been no consultation.
Look up some of Sue-Ann Levy's columns, she hates everything ward 18 is trying to do in terms of making the ward a greener, community focused, more livable place.
She calls people "socialists" and "anti-car-zealots" and then says she is a journalist. How about all of her recent columns about how great Rob Ford is and how great privatizing everything in the city will be. Or all of her stories criticizing George Smitherman and Joe Pantelone?
This doesn't sound like an unbiased moderator to me. She sounds like a member of Rob Fords Campaign team. In fact her paper, of which she is obliged to tow the editorial slant of, has been a non-stop backer of Councils right wing for years and this April featured a full front page story about how great Rob Ford was.
I don't care really what Sue-Ann Levy thinks, that's her business, but her values don't represent what I think the values of this ward are, and I remind you that this ward does not elect conservative anything members---we vote Liberal Left. I want somebody moderating who reflects our values and knows our issues; isnt an involved ward 18 resident good enough to moderate?
It doesn't matter that all the candidates are o.k. with Sue-Ann Levy -- NONE of those candidates have been elected to represent Ward 18. Yes this becomes about YOU again because you stick your nose into everyone's business and yet expect your projects to only be about the issue.
RE: "I also let many others in the ward know and it seems that it's only about 10 or so people, all in JT who were oposed to Sue-Ann Levy..."
To be fair about the FB process, and it's documented online that only you and Virginia were the most viciously vocal about that project. How do YOU KNOW that all the other 10 people opposed to Sue-Ann Levy were not getting feedback from others in the community, questioning her as moderator? You make plenty of excuses when the spotlight is on you. You bully others to live by what YOU THINK is the ONLY way to do produce a community event then find many excuses why the same rules don't apply to you and why you think you are above from others.
RE: "The hours, the flyers, posters, calling and emailing candidates and getting a venue is all volunteer and money coming from me. I don't have sponsors and many people to help out other then a few. "
That's no excuse for your past behaviour towards other community groups' projects, not just FB, but everything anybody else does that you don't initiate. EVERYONE spends plenty of volunteer time working on their individual projects and the main opposition ALWAYS come from YOU. Why is it that you don't have many people helping you out? Why? Is it because NO ONE really wants to work with someone who can't compromise and forces his methods on others? You can ask for sponsorship yourself, but be prepared to live by the same scrutiny you have thrown on so many others in this community. YOU are NOT ABOVE it all.
I have a sneaky suspicion the 1916 photo we are seeing is of tripping hazards on the bridge (ie worn out planks).
Great shot!
Ranajit
Like I told Vic, before I told everyone else about the debate and who the moderator was. I mentioned it to the Mayoral Candidates. None of the 6 candidates had any objections or concern, which was important for the debate to continue. I also let many others in the ward know and it seems that it's only about 10 or so people, all in JT who were oposed to Sue-Ann Levy been the moderator. I am not sure if this is about Sue-Ann Levy or something else. I also been hearing this been compared to FB incident, you cannot compare the two.
Remember all the questions been put forward to the candidates are coming from the residents.
I also heard concerns about the other debate I organized, about the moderator. It wasn't perfect, but it worked. Beside Vic and Katie the same people who have concerns did not show or boycotted he first debate I organized.
Eli Malinsky is doing a debate. I didn't hear any complaints towards him, nor do I believe that he need to ask for permission to do a debate.
The other thing I said to Vic since he was the one who brought this concern up, there is still a few months left. I will sit on this for a bit. I did let Sue-Ann Levy know and her response who be pasted at the end of this email.
I have already started to received some questions from residents and others who have concerbs and questions they would like to see put forward to the Mayoral Candidates. Few from CTC and also from others. None expressed any objection about Sue-ann Levy
I want to finish off by saying that this ward is big enough to do more debates and I encourage others to do that. There is nothing to gain by doing this debate. Other then to get the residents a chance to voice there concerns and put ward18 up in the map.
The hours, the flyers, posters, calling and emailing candidates and getting a venue is all volunteer and money coming from me. I don't have sponsors and many people to help out other then a few.
I have a list of people that I called to be a moderator. People who are in media or journalism. I was looking for a outsider a complete stranger to do something big like this.. Will keep you posted.
Please see Sue-Ann Levy response:
Jack,
I'm offering my services -- for free.
You will get an honest, hard-hitting debate--maybe you'll even get some answers to some tough questions, not Pablum.
All the best,
Sue-Ann
Sue-Ann Levy
City Hall Columnist
Toronto Sun
I'd wear one too. Maybe not on a book cover but maybe on the jacket flap? ;-D
I saw a funny Parkdale one the other day, something about an alien....
Let's not let this spiral into another ugly community argument. The fact is the choice for moderator is extremely unpopular. Jack, you mention above "I am looking for feed back and input from individuals and groups with-in the ward" and here you have it! Time to choose a new moderator and move on to what will hopefully be yet another successful event. I know from my Fuzzy Boundaries involvement that it is difficult to back track, but when we heard from residents that they wanted a community vote rather than a panel analyzing votes of the first round, we changed the process to address the residents' concerns.
You'll have to talk with Jack Fava about that. There was no process. No consultation, no democracy. Of course Jack demands it from everyone else when they want to do something, but those requirements don't apply to him it seems.
I may be a bit behind on this forum with regard to who will be moderating the event. I would like to know one thing ... who on Earth suggested Sue-Anne Levy for this and how did her name get this far in the process????? This woman is the antithisis of objective and would really make a mockery of the debate. How did it get this far. It is however sometimes good to know what the enemy is up to no?