For what it's worth, I'm overall supportive of this project. I'm glad the church building will be re-used with minimal exterior changes.
The developer has accommodated some of the community's concerns and ideas from the last meeting. There's still some work to do, and I hope that all issues can be sorted out (though no matter what, someone will probably not like the outcome).
The neighbours immediately north of the site will probably be the most affected by this, and they came to the meeting with plenty of good, well-reasoned and educated questions (actually, was that you, MattD?). Privacy, shading, and construction impacts would be my concerns if I lived there too...
Like all community meetings, the traffic and parking issues seemed to take the main focus. To be honest, I'm not too concerned about the traffic and parking impacts from this development. I would expect that many people who move in to this development will likely use transit, walk, or bike to work, as a large portion of people in the neighbourhood already do. I'm surprised that the developer/owner of this site (and the Glidden site owner, too) didn't really play up the GO/Bloor/Bike options, as other developers have (e.g. Castlepoint on Sterling). I think the laneway access into the site is fine, though they will have to do something about the snow.
The opportunities for streetscape, sidewalk, and road improvements at Perth and Wallace should be taken advantage of too.
As a clarification, the church redevelopment is NOT rental units as stated on page 17 of the Official Plan Amendment and Zoning Amendment Application; this was cleared up at the community consultation meeting held on Feb. 21
I was not trying to be hard on transient singles or to suggest that they are inherently bad for a neighbourhood. Rather, I meant to suggest that a development of 34 small rental units in an area that is trying to improve the local school, library, parks, etc. seems incongruent with the overall aims of this community. Happily, I can report that the rental/condo confusion was corrected.
As a clarification, the church redevelopment is NOT rental units as stated on page 17 of the Official Plan Amendment and Zoning Amendment Application, this was cleared up at the community consultation meeting held on Feb. 21
Good points Matt although I dont think we should be too hard on "transient singles" since this area has had a large number of renters for the last 30 years. I think I was a "transient single" once myself and I turned out OK. : )
Of note you are correct about the "Tenure Type" being rental and that is a huge concern. I wonder if that was a mistake as I thought this would be a condo project. Can somebody at the meeting clear that up for us who cannot make it ?
I have several concerns with this project, the major ones being:
-the proposed plan is 34 RENTAL units, 30 one-bedroom units and 4 two-bedroom units. We were initially told the build would be condos.
-this will bring a lot of transient singles into a neighbourhood that is increasingly attracting families and does not contribute to the needed development of inner-city housing for families.
-the height of the new building is 3.35m above the zoning of 12m for a total of 15.35m. The adjacent residences are 9.35m, so the proposed plan is not in keeping with other existing residences in the area
-the size of the new building is also not in keeping with other new builds in the area.
-the back of the building is not in line with those of other houses on that side of the street.
-the proposed reconstruction of the heritage building will include terraces that overlook many peoples houses and backyards - this is accomplished by removing the roof of the church and drastically changes the character of this historic structure.
-garbage, compost and recycling collection: will a truck have to block the lane way to accomplish this?
-overall traffic congestion on Perth Avenue and parking issues.
It was clear to a few of us last night after seeing the car this 40 year old who paid the ultimate price for something he wanted in the back seat of a car parked on perth avenue. The owner or owners of this car did not heed the police warning about not leaving any personal belongings in vehicles. A few of us took a walk around the neighbourhood only to see a car with the back passenger side window that was smashed only to see a bag still in the back seat. Though people should not touch what is not theirs, however criminals don't always think that way. Sad
It appears people related to this incident have a car parked at the former Wallace and Perth Church and some people have said that a person may have tried to break into the church. My neighbours seem to know some of the people involved and the corner is taped off right now.
This is an important vote, we have dropped from ranking 4th to ranking 9th - get the message out to family and friends, I sent the link to 600 friends on my connections link, if we all send this to everyone we know this all important improvement project will be in the top ranking for the final vote.
Cheers,
Philip
South Perth & Sterling Road Residents Association Co-Chair.
The Perth/Dupont Library should be a "landmark" building and "an anchor" in the community, said those who attended the first of a series of workshops to discuss the branch's renovation and expansion.
Renovation and expansion funds to the tune of $1 million have been earmarked for the Perth/Dupont Library.
As part of the expansion process, a series of workshops are being organized with interested members of the community to develop ideas about the features and services local residents would like to see in a larger library.
The first workshop takes place on Wednesday, Feb. 15 at the Wallace Emmerson Community Centre's Abrigo Room, 1260 Dufferin St., just south of Dupont from 7 to 8:30 p.m.
Kudos to your work and efforts with the school project, you are affecting change and getting notice, within the JT specifically and extended-locally, your passion and dedication is much appreciated as our children deserve no less,
this initiative is long long over due and the fact that a group of residents have taken it upon themselves to make the personal sacrifice to better our community school and our livability as residents, deserves nothing short of our FULL appreciation and support, with nothing less....
I was merely pointing things out to you, was trying not to be to critical. I am surprised no one said anything to you. This has been a problem for years in the JT( renaming JT, Clean Train, Library to name a few). I think the efforts by you and your committee is great and believe it's in the best interest of the kids, however we must be more inclusive and remember we live in a community were their is many which english is not their first language and english is not spoken at home, neither by students parents or grandparents. The importance of been inclusive to all residence of the JT.
Ana even pointed out about been inclusive and how great it is to have a deverse community like the JT. All 3 elected officals of davenport were notified
ANA WROTE: Dear Jack,
Thank you for taking the time to contact me. I believe that having such a diverse community adds to the vibrancy and appeal of our neighbourhood. I will continue to work hard in being inclusive of the many different people that make up our Ward's population.
Thank you once again for your e-mail and please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.
Regards,
Ana Bailão
City Councillor
Ward 18, Davenport
..that if you're not willing or able to help effect the change you'd like to see in the process, then perhaps you are better to keep your criticisms quietly to yourself. the folks on this schoolyard committee have been working very hard to a) apply for this grant and b) put the word out about it. parents have volunteered their time and their own money to do what has been done so far. some of these parents work full-time and some of them are home with many children and some of them are on this committee AND others.
"without criticizing too much"...the turn around time to apply for this grant was very short and the parents involved had to jump in with both feet just to meet the deadline. and since you have no time to be involved in this initiative, you would have no idea what method has been successful in reaching our community.
in a perfect world, every scrap of information around the neighbourhood would be instantly translated into the multitude of languages. on tight timelines and tighter budgets, that just isn't going to happen.
ps - here's hoping that you're at least voting. surely you have time for that?
What a great effort by everyone connected to the Perth Schoolyard Improvement Project! Voting for the $50,000 grant competition has been underway for two weeks. Perth has been in the Top Ten since voting began with more than 70 organizations competing.
It speaks to the sense of community that exists in the Junction Triangle. There are clearly a dedicated number of people voting for Perth. The project is currently in seventh spot.
More voters for the final week would help Perth secure a Top 10 finish and a better chance of advancing to the final round.
It's easy to register and voting takes less than a minute. It's absolutely free and no salesmen will call. Just follow the links from the JT website https://www.junctiontriangle.ca/PerthSchoolyardVote
Many thanks.
JA, No thanks.
I have to much on my plate already, between work, family and other commitments can't do it. In December 2011 after 12 yrs as a volunteer with the Toronto Police (11 div CPLC and Victims Services) had to resign as I have to much going on. Without criticizing to much, you had the opportunity to do the flyers in multi language with the flyers you have on the poles around the JT. I can see your flyers on the poles. Plus I think you got more attention with going into the villager paper and poles, then you advertising in the post cards.
I usually read all my junk mail, junk or not, except the ones from the Realtors I throw those away, but if I didn't read the post card closely, I would think they are more junk mail. The post cards looked so much like some some fitness or Realtor advertisement.
This is just an observation, but it seems people who either speak another language or have parents who speak another language appreciate or understand how important it is to have literature done in multi languages. Councillor Ana is getting it and trying to be more inclusive. I wish I could say the same about Andrew and Jonah.
You said: "The project was never meant to be inclusive" then how are you suppose to get votes and more importantly, if you don't wanted to be more inclusive with the general community in the JT, you sure need to be more inclusive with the parents of the kids from perth. JF
One thing many people want in a bigger library at 1589 Dupont is a building that is architecturally interesting - something that elevates the area with a landmark structure.
While remembering we're just a branch library, Lisa Rochon has a great article on the "Business Case for Beautiful Libraries" in Saturday's Globe and Mail http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/lisa-rochon/the-business-case-f...
Architecture is sure to be a topic of discussion on Wednesday evening when DIGIN hosts a special library workshop at the Wallace Emerson Community Centre's Abrigo Room at 7 p.m. It's a free event and everyone is welcome. More details https://www.junctiontriangle.ca/node/1414
Hello Jack,
We are very lucky to have the opportunity to apply for this grant. The project was never meant to be inclusive. The announcement for the grant and the timing of the project gave us just over a week to complete the project. All your arguments are correct, however we are lucky and thankful that the library project allowed us to piggyback on their mailout, otherwise there would have been none. As well, we are happy that sponsors helped to pay for the distribution and printing. We will be getting into the top 20 and we will have another round of voting and another mailout, so please put your suggestions into action and do some translation and deliver some flyers with us. We will not receive the grant if we don't get more residents on board and we need more help to do so. I am sure that you will be able to reach out to members of the community that we haven't been able to, due to language barriers, etc. I hope you are voting too! Can I put you down as a volunteer for this project?
Looking forward to working with you. JA
We have a great dog walker. Recently, our dog has fallen ill, but our dog walker faithfully stops by twice a week to just visit with him. She is great. Link below.
Hi,
This Friday night should be really cold so that means perfect ice, yay! The Rink will be a icy dream in time for Saturday Morning Toddler Skate from 9-10:15am:)
We will have tea, coffee and hot chocolate by donation and other morning snacks. Please email me if you have questions.
Thanks so much and see you soon
Marina
.
.
..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Campbell Rink-:¦:-
-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´
For what it's worth, I'm overall supportive of this project. I'm glad the church building will be re-used with minimal exterior changes.
The developer has accommodated some of the community's concerns and ideas from the last meeting. There's still some work to do, and I hope that all issues can be sorted out (though no matter what, someone will probably not like the outcome).
The neighbours immediately north of the site will probably be the most affected by this, and they came to the meeting with plenty of good, well-reasoned and educated questions (actually, was that you, MattD?). Privacy, shading, and construction impacts would be my concerns if I lived there too...
Like all community meetings, the traffic and parking issues seemed to take the main focus. To be honest, I'm not too concerned about the traffic and parking impacts from this development. I would expect that many people who move in to this development will likely use transit, walk, or bike to work, as a large portion of people in the neighbourhood already do. I'm surprised that the developer/owner of this site (and the Glidden site owner, too) didn't really play up the GO/Bloor/Bike options, as other developers have (e.g. Castlepoint on Sterling). I think the laneway access into the site is fine, though they will have to do something about the snow.
The opportunities for streetscape, sidewalk, and road improvements at Perth and Wallace should be taken advantage of too.
-Vic
Matt,
It's not available online (that I'm aware of) but you can get it from the library (link) or rent it at Movie Art Decor.
You can probably also get a copy from Jeff directly. :)
-Vic
Is there a way to view this film online?
As a clarification, the church redevelopment is NOT rental units as stated on page 17 of the Official Plan Amendment and Zoning Amendment Application; this was cleared up at the community consultation meeting held on Feb. 21
I was not trying to be hard on transient singles or to suggest that they are inherently bad for a neighbourhood. Rather, I meant to suggest that a development of 34 small rental units in an area that is trying to improve the local school, library, parks, etc. seems incongruent with the overall aims of this community. Happily, I can report that the rental/condo confusion was corrected.
As a clarification, the church redevelopment is NOT rental units as stated on page 17 of the Official Plan Amendment and Zoning Amendment Application, this was cleared up at the community consultation meeting held on Feb. 21
Good work Vic. I admire your restraint given that the majority were not anonymous and the SHOUTER was. : )
Good points Matt although I dont think we should be too hard on "transient singles" since this area has had a large number of renters for the last 30 years. I think I was a "transient single" once myself and I turned out OK. : )
Of note you are correct about the "Tenure Type" being rental and that is a huge concern. I wonder if that was a mistake as I thought this would be a condo project. Can somebody at the meeting clear that up for us who cannot make it ?
I have several concerns with this project, the major ones being:
-the proposed plan is 34 RENTAL units, 30 one-bedroom units and 4 two-bedroom units. We were initially told the build would be condos.
-this will bring a lot of transient singles into a neighbourhood that is increasingly attracting families and does not contribute to the needed development of inner-city housing for families.
-the height of the new building is 3.35m above the zoning of 12m for a total of 15.35m. The adjacent residences are 9.35m, so the proposed plan is not in keeping with other existing residences in the area
-the size of the new building is also not in keeping with other new builds in the area.
-the back of the building is not in line with those of other houses on that side of the street.
-the proposed reconstruction of the heritage building will include terraces that overlook many peoples houses and backyards - this is accomplished by removing the roof of the church and drastically changes the character of this historic structure.
-garbage, compost and recycling collection: will a truck have to block the lane way to accomplish this?
-overall traffic congestion on Perth Avenue and parking issues.
All the above information was obtained from http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2012/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-43079.pdf
Positive and negative comments, as well as signed-in and anonymous comments, are welcome here.
Though I'd appreciate it you turned off your capslock key, as SHOUTING isn't welcome here, especially by anonymous critics of anonymous posters :)
Code of conduct
WHY ARE ALL THE REALLY POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT WRITTEN BY AN ANONYMOUS PERSON?
It was clear to a few of us last night after seeing the car this 40 year old who paid the ultimate price for something he wanted in the back seat of a car parked on perth avenue. The owner or owners of this car did not heed the police warning about not leaving any personal belongings in vehicles. A few of us took a walk around the neighbourhood only to see a car with the back passenger side window that was smashed only to see a bag still in the back seat. Though people should not touch what is not theirs, however criminals don't always think that way. Sad
It appears people related to this incident have a car parked at the former Wallace and Perth Church and some people have said that a person may have tried to break into the church. My neighbours seem to know some of the people involved and the corner is taped off right now.
This is an important vote, we have dropped from ranking 4th to ranking 9th - get the message out to family and friends, I sent the link to 600 friends on my connections link, if we all send this to everyone we know this all important improvement project will be in the top ranking for the final vote.
Cheers,
Philip
South Perth & Sterling Road Residents Association Co-Chair.
Article in The Villager / Inside Toronto:
http://www.insidetoronto.com/news/local/article/1299598--residents-rally...
Read the rest here:
http://www.insidetoronto.com/news/local/article/1299598--residents-rally...
Article in The Villager / Inside Toronto about this week's Library meeting:
http://www.insidetoronto.com/news/local/article/1297464--idea-sharing-so...
Kudos to your work and efforts with the school project, you are affecting change and getting notice, within the JT specifically and extended-locally, your passion and dedication is much appreciated as our children deserve no less,
this initiative is long long over due and the fact that a group of residents have taken it upon themselves to make the personal sacrifice to better our community school and our livability as residents, deserves nothing short of our FULL appreciation and support, with nothing less....
Keep up the great work,
Kori
I was merely pointing things out to you, was trying not to be to critical. I am surprised no one said anything to you. This has been a problem for years in the JT( renaming JT, Clean Train, Library to name a few). I think the efforts by you and your committee is great and believe it's in the best interest of the kids, however we must be more inclusive and remember we live in a community were their is many which english is not their first language and english is not spoken at home, neither by students parents or grandparents. The importance of been inclusive to all residence of the JT.
Ana even pointed out about been inclusive and how great it is to have a deverse community like the JT. All 3 elected officals of davenport were notified
ANA WROTE: Dear Jack,
Thank you for taking the time to contact me. I believe that having such a diverse community adds to the vibrancy and appeal of our neighbourhood. I will continue to work hard in being inclusive of the many different people that make up our Ward's population.
Thank you once again for your e-mail and please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.
Regards,
Ana Bailão
City Councillor
Ward 18, Davenport
..that if you're not willing or able to help effect the change you'd like to see in the process, then perhaps you are better to keep your criticisms quietly to yourself. the folks on this schoolyard committee have been working very hard to a) apply for this grant and b) put the word out about it. parents have volunteered their time and their own money to do what has been done so far. some of these parents work full-time and some of them are home with many children and some of them are on this committee AND others.
"without criticizing too much"...the turn around time to apply for this grant was very short and the parents involved had to jump in with both feet just to meet the deadline. and since you have no time to be involved in this initiative, you would have no idea what method has been successful in reaching our community.
in a perfect world, every scrap of information around the neighbourhood would be instantly translated into the multitude of languages. on tight timelines and tighter budgets, that just isn't going to happen.
ps - here's hoping that you're at least voting. surely you have time for that?
What a great effort by everyone connected to the Perth Schoolyard Improvement Project! Voting for the $50,000 grant competition has been underway for two weeks. Perth has been in the Top Ten since voting began with more than 70 organizations competing.
It speaks to the sense of community that exists in the Junction Triangle. There are clearly a dedicated number of people voting for Perth. The project is currently in seventh spot.
More voters for the final week would help Perth secure a Top 10 finish and a better chance of advancing to the final round.
It's easy to register and voting takes less than a minute. It's absolutely free and no salesmen will call. Just follow the links from the JT website https://www.junctiontriangle.ca/PerthSchoolyardVote
Many thanks.
JA, No thanks.
I have to much on my plate already, between work, family and other commitments can't do it. In December 2011 after 12 yrs as a volunteer with the Toronto Police (11 div CPLC and Victims Services) had to resign as I have to much going on. Without criticizing to much, you had the opportunity to do the flyers in multi language with the flyers you have on the poles around the JT. I can see your flyers on the poles. Plus I think you got more attention with going into the villager paper and poles, then you advertising in the post cards.
I usually read all my junk mail, junk or not, except the ones from the Realtors I throw those away, but if I didn't read the post card closely, I would think they are more junk mail. The post cards looked so much like some some fitness or Realtor advertisement.
This is just an observation, but it seems people who either speak another language or have parents who speak another language appreciate or understand how important it is to have literature done in multi languages. Councillor Ana is getting it and trying to be more inclusive. I wish I could say the same about Andrew and Jonah.
You said: "The project was never meant to be inclusive" then how are you suppose to get votes and more importantly, if you don't wanted to be more inclusive with the general community in the JT, you sure need to be more inclusive with the parents of the kids from perth. JF
One thing many people want in a bigger library at 1589 Dupont is a building that is architecturally interesting - something that elevates the area with a landmark structure.
While remembering we're just a branch library, Lisa Rochon has a great article on the "Business Case for Beautiful Libraries" in Saturday's Globe and Mail http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/lisa-rochon/the-business-case-f...
Architecture is sure to be a topic of discussion on Wednesday evening when DIGIN hosts a special library workshop at the Wallace Emerson Community Centre's Abrigo Room at 7 p.m. It's a free event and everyone is welcome. More details https://www.junctiontriangle.ca/node/1414
Hello Jack,
We are very lucky to have the opportunity to apply for this grant. The project was never meant to be inclusive. The announcement for the grant and the timing of the project gave us just over a week to complete the project. All your arguments are correct, however we are lucky and thankful that the library project allowed us to piggyback on their mailout, otherwise there would have been none. As well, we are happy that sponsors helped to pay for the distribution and printing. We will be getting into the top 20 and we will have another round of voting and another mailout, so please put your suggestions into action and do some translation and deliver some flyers with us. We will not receive the grant if we don't get more residents on board and we need more help to do so. I am sure that you will be able to reach out to members of the community that we haven't been able to, due to language barriers, etc. I hope you are voting too! Can I put you down as a volunteer for this project?
Looking forward to working with you. JA
Hi there
We have a great dog walker. Recently, our dog has fallen ill, but our dog walker faithfully stops by twice a week to just visit with him. She is great. Link below.
http://www.highparkdogwalks.com/index.php
Hi,
This Friday night should be really cold so that means perfect ice, yay! The Rink will be a icy dream in time for Saturday Morning Toddler Skate from 9-10:15am:)
We will have tea, coffee and hot chocolate by donation and other morning snacks. Please email me if you have questions.
Thanks so much and see you soon
Marina
.
.
..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
((¸¸.·´ ..·´ Campbell Rink-:¦:-
-:¦:- ((¸¸.·´
Jeff's documentary Bending the Rails, set here in our neighbourhood, is airing on Rogers at 7 pm on Tuesday, February 14th. Hope you can tune in! http://www.rogerstv.com/page.aspx?lid=12&rid=16&sid=4743