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John that was a major study and it really just confirmed what people in cultural industries already knew, that artistic and creative folk pump a lot of money into the economy and create a lot of jobs. Its hard to be unaware of the very large number of ward 18 residents who work in cultural industries from film to painting and theatre. I can think of at least 30 people in the TV business, 22 people who paint or sculpt, and about 10 in theatre, plus the 3 writers, who live within a block of my house.
You can see the revitalization of the Bloor and Lansdowne area due to new galleries; think of the thousands that turn out for Nuit Blanche all over the ward and city. You can see the impact of Arts on the south end of the ward which is spreading west. Toronto competes toe to toe with New York and London as a major Arts player and not understanding that is bad for business.
Arts and Culture also has a role to play in shaping our society as expressed the other day in this Star opinion written by Des McAnuff, one of Canada's greatest artistic producers.
However, if YOU are really interested in understanding how arts and culture contribute to the economy and society as a whole, I suggest that rather then sit at your computer egging people on in an argument, perhaps you can do your own research.
There are also many stories where "poor" kids have had their talent recognized and end up with scholarships for music or visual arts and rise above their circumstances. Or how the arts have saved many at risk youth from going into the life of crime because writing poetry, performing spoken word poetry, music or painting gave them something else to do with their time.
You have computer, Google some searches. Some artists are too busy to argue with you online because they are working two jobs: a day job to pay the bills and at night working on their art, while some may also be raising families too.
Thanks for noticing, Scott. I'm not in it for the "political game". We've had enough gamesters here forwarding their own selfish agendas by just saying what they think the people want to hear. I tell it like I see it, change my mind when facts and arguments are presented and have the guts to take unpopular stands when I believe in something. I am still open to hearing from anyone what the arts do to reduce societal poeverty-hunger-homelessness and contribute to job growth for anyone except the artists. We all deserve a better quality of life.
While i too have conflicted thoughts on the falling of the last piece of a structure i have viewed, again with mixed feelings for years, rather than voicing unsubstantiated prejudgments at what will now rise from the filthy soil beneath, we should be offering our energy (i am) to participate in controlling, as citizens of a growingly diverse area of the City, to ensure that what is built here will be suitable, useful, substantial, and adhere to a vision of what can be done architecturally to improve the environment, the utility of what is most suited to this area, and the actual lives of those who encounter and/or live here.
You will never win this election, you're not even a serious contender. I do hate to break it to you but perhaps if you let go of that aggressive "convince me" attitude you'd stand a chance. Then again maybe not. You don't know how to play the political game, so just walk away sir.
Who exactly is arts vote? A lobby group wilth a single issue demand. I took the survey, which if you wanted to score 4 stars, all you had to do was answer the questions the very biased way they were phrased. Just because 4 candidates scored big means little except that they will say what you want to hear so they can get elected.
"I am an artist. I vote" is rather a strange statement to make. Everybody can vote. Are artists votes more important than anyone else's? Not so subtle intimidation.
Still waiting to be convinced tax money to artists best use to combat poverty-homelessness-hunger. So? Convince me - without the save the starving artist argument.
West-end youth club abandons program after $100,000 renovation
Published On Tue Sep 21 2010
The Dovercourt Boys and Girls Club has pulled the plug on a new after-school program in a renovated warehouse, abandoning about 250 youths in the city’s west end.
The nearly completed Junction Triangle site lies vacant after about $100,000 was spent on renovations and rent.
The club has refused to pay any more rent and is looking at legal channels to break the lease on 45 Ernest Ave.
These are the same kids who were abandoned two years ago when the lease ran out on a Randolph Ave. site.
At public meetings afterward, the club promised Junction Triangle residents a new outreach home, and the club found one in an old 7,000-square-foot warehouse.
We welcome you and any support & assistance you can render our area, thank you for choosing our area and initiating conversation with the area residents, to have professional outside support while dealing with the developers & their vision, the city and their vision and our own vision can have its challenges but having another who can be a voice of our vision while dealing with the "other" is appreciated.
What a shame, can't wait to see area get infiltrated with glass monstrosities of shit. The street level will go from full of character to suburban Markham in look. Are they at least preserving the pre-1900 brick for a possible rebuilding of the lost facade's?
No big surprise in Ward 18, the 4 candidates that are really involved in the community as a whole score the best rankings and the single issue or fringe candidates were not available; if you cant answer a question sheet one has to wonder how you could serve an entire community.
A reminder for the many Arts and Culture workers in our area (and there are a lot) the Mayors Art Debate will be at the AGO on September 29. Check out the Artsvote website for more details.
Good on you Raph for saying something. Our neighbourhood is really starting to come around and people like this keep trying to hold us back. As someone who lives on the alley I've constantly had people dumping on my property, from cans and food containers right up to shopping carts and bbqs. I hope that more people will act as Raph did and make a fuss, our neighbourhood deserves it!
Sorry to hear about your garden. While I have not had this happen, I have had a constant problem of people dumping garbage in my parking pad. I'm sure it is the same people who use the garbage bins at the bus stops, or the parks, for their household waste.
I've always followed the policy of "If you see something, say something" questioning things that just don't seem right....Hence my argument with the woman dropping her trash at the bus stop and heading off to work..
If someone sees me as 'that jerk who hassled me about dumping my garbage at the bus stop', who cares, they were the jerk first, in my humble opinion.
I'm near Perth and Antler as well, so if I see your plants, I'll be sure to complemetnt the new owner, and then pass along the request to return them to their original owner...
Thanks for keeping us in the loop with all the details. I'm glad someone's keeping up with all the Perth/Sterling action.
As much as I mourn the loss of some great buildings and streetscapes, I think there's so much potential for that area t get cleaned up and evolve into something even better.
Hi this is to update residents and those interested on the latest info for these areas.
The Hydro building had to come down as it was the only way to clear all the crap underneath it, the roof vent turbines were to be saved for future use but unfortunately someone stole them off the site before they could be secured.
No word from Toronto Hydro on if they plan to rebuild another transformer site on this location.
Moloney is now in the hands of private owners and it appears they have built regulation Basketball courts inside for rent starting at $60.00 an hour, a promising venture for sure.
Tower Automotive has had all of the outcropped building razed and the cleanup will now continue in the areas that were largely unable to be accessed, RioTinto Alcan has been working hard to get approvals from MOE and Metrolinx and Min of Health to complete as much of the remediation as is left, though there has been a lot of great progress and soil tests, air quality tests are all showing very small amounts of VOCs all of which are at a very deep level.
The plans to install the barrier underground are proceeding and it looks as if that will be the route most supported by all levels of science.
Castlepoint continues to consult with the resident's along Sterling and Perth and so far they have kept their word about their plans very public and have been proceeding as they had indicated.
A soon to be announced meeting will be happening and I will advise when that will be once the date has been firmed up.
The Spring cleanup which usually takes place around the 3rd week of April should show the area in a whole new light, it is amazing to see the vista without all of the buildings blocking the view, the other side of this is that maybe the participants of the CQB paintball will be less likely to roam the property now that it is all open, and a request has been made to have security night image cameras installed and sensor lighting..so we are hopeful that this will prevent anyone being injured on the site .
This event coincides with the Good Food For All Festival that is happening the same day at The Stop up at the parking lot beside DPNC. Lots of stuff going on for the whole family and the best part is that it is free!!!!
The Lansdowne bike lanes are also mentioned in Adam Giambrone's newsletter that was delivered this week. I don't recall it specifying a date, but it said 2010...
Project was 'rushed into', says operations manager
A plan by a local organization to open a permanent centre serving youth in the Junction Triangle has been put on hold indefinitely "after a careful review", said the group's operations manager.
I hate deleting messages and having to remind people to abide by the Code of Conduct for this website, but here it is....
Let's keep things civil, on-topic, and refrain from name-calling. Also note that anonymous comments are subject to stronger scrutiny and moderation standards.
Chill out a bit, and have a good evening. :)
John that was a major study and it really just confirmed what people in cultural industries already knew, that artistic and creative folk pump a lot of money into the economy and create a lot of jobs. Its hard to be unaware of the very large number of ward 18 residents who work in cultural industries from film to painting and theatre. I can think of at least 30 people in the TV business, 22 people who paint or sculpt, and about 10 in theatre, plus the 3 writers, who live within a block of my house.
You can see the revitalization of the Bloor and Lansdowne area due to new galleries; think of the thousands that turn out for Nuit Blanche all over the ward and city. You can see the impact of Arts on the south end of the ward which is spreading west. Toronto competes toe to toe with New York and London as a major Arts player and not understanding that is bad for business.
Arts and Culture also has a role to play in shaping our society as expressed the other day in this Star opinion written by Des McAnuff, one of Canada's greatest artistic producers.
http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/863033--wake-up-...
In addition to the research that you need to do you should go find an artist and get to know them, it wont be hard, our ward is filled with them.
Pay attention Ken I have not posted a reply to you yet. Unlike a well known malcontent I always use my real name.
Here's a little article from CBC: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2008/08/26/culture-sector.html
However, if YOU are really interested in understanding how arts and culture contribute to the economy and society as a whole, I suggest that rather then sit at your computer egging people on in an argument, perhaps you can do your own research.
There are also many stories where "poor" kids have had their talent recognized and end up with scholarships for music or visual arts and rise above their circumstances. Or how the arts have saved many at risk youth from going into the life of crime because writing poetry, performing spoken word poetry, music or painting gave them something else to do with their time.
You have computer, Google some searches. Some artists are too busy to argue with you online because they are working two jobs: a day job to pay the bills and at night working on their art, while some may also be raising families too.
I wish you all the best with your research.
Thanks for noticing, Scott. I'm not in it for the "political game". We've had enough gamesters here forwarding their own selfish agendas by just saying what they think the people want to hear. I tell it like I see it, change my mind when facts and arguments are presented and have the guts to take unpopular stands when I believe in something. I am still open to hearing from anyone what the arts do to reduce societal poeverty-hunger-homelessness and contribute to job growth for anyone except the artists. We all deserve a better quality of life.
While i too have conflicted thoughts on the falling of the last piece of a structure i have viewed, again with mixed feelings for years, rather than voicing unsubstantiated prejudgments at what will now rise from the filthy soil beneath, we should be offering our energy (i am) to participate in controlling, as citizens of a growingly diverse area of the City, to ensure that what is built here will be suitable, useful, substantial, and adhere to a vision of what can be done architecturally to improve the environment, the utility of what is most suited to this area, and the actual lives of those who encounter and/or live here.
Bruce, a4hTO, junctionTriangle
Dear Ken Wood,
You will never win this election, you're not even a serious contender. I do hate to break it to you but perhaps if you let go of that aggressive "convince me" attitude you'd stand a chance. Then again maybe not. You don't know how to play the political game, so just walk away sir.
Who exactly is arts vote? A lobby group wilth a single issue demand. I took the survey, which if you wanted to score 4 stars, all you had to do was answer the questions the very biased way they were phrased. Just because 4 candidates scored big means little except that they will say what you want to hear so they can get elected.
"I am an artist. I vote" is rather a strange statement to make. Everybody can vote. Are artists votes more important than anyone else's? Not so subtle intimidation.
Still waiting to be convinced tax money to artists best use to combat poverty-homelessness-hunger. So? Convince me - without the save the starving artist argument.
Toronto Star article published online today:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/864497--west-end-youth-club-aban...
Read the rest of the article on The Star's website.
We welcome you and any support & assistance you can render our area, thank you for choosing our area and initiating conversation with the area residents, to have professional outside support while dealing with the developers & their vision, the city and their vision and our own vision can have its challenges but having another who can be a voice of our vision while dealing with the "other" is appreciated.
look forward to the dialogue
Kori
What a shame, can't wait to see area get infiltrated with glass monstrosities of shit. The street level will go from full of character to suburban Markham in look. Are they at least preserving the pre-1900 brick for a possible rebuilding of the lost facade's?
Artsvote has issued its report card on candidates and the Arts.
http://artsvotetoronto.ca/report-card/#18
http://artsvotetoronto.ca/
No big surprise in Ward 18, the 4 candidates that are really involved in the community as a whole score the best rankings and the single issue or fringe candidates were not available; if you cant answer a question sheet one has to wonder how you could serve an entire community.
A reminder for the many Arts and Culture workers in our area (and there are a lot) the Mayors Art Debate will be at the AGO on September 29. Check out the Artsvote website for more details.
They couldn't remediate the soil because of one narrow chimney? Come on! It's sad to see a piece of history that adds so much character to city.
Ah well, enjoy your empty field of rubble or ugly condo.
Hi Alison -
I would consider splitting a shift with you. What time are you signed up for?
If anyone wants to split a shift, please let me know.
Good on you Raph for saying something. Our neighbourhood is really starting to come around and people like this keep trying to hold us back. As someone who lives on the alley I've constantly had people dumping on my property, from cans and food containers right up to shopping carts and bbqs. I hope that more people will act as Raph did and make a fuss, our neighbourhood deserves it!
Sorry to hear about your garden. While I have not had this happen, I have had a constant problem of people dumping garbage in my parking pad. I'm sure it is the same people who use the garbage bins at the bus stops, or the parks, for their household waste.
I've always followed the policy of "If you see something, say something" questioning things that just don't seem right....Hence my argument with the woman dropping her trash at the bus stop and heading off to work..
If someone sees me as 'that jerk who hassled me about dumping my garbage at the bus stop', who cares, they were the jerk first, in my humble opinion.
I'm near Perth and Antler as well, so if I see your plants, I'll be sure to complemetnt the new owner, and then pass along the request to return them to their original owner...
;)
Thanks for keeping us in the loop with all the details. I'm glad someone's keeping up with all the Perth/Sterling action.
As much as I mourn the loss of some great buildings and streetscapes, I think there's so much potential for that area t get cleaned up and evolve into something even better.
Cheers,
Vic
Hi this is to update residents and those interested on the latest info for these areas.
The Hydro building had to come down as it was the only way to clear all the crap underneath it, the roof vent turbines were to be saved for future use but unfortunately someone stole them off the site before they could be secured.
No word from Toronto Hydro on if they plan to rebuild another transformer site on this location.
Moloney is now in the hands of private owners and it appears they have built regulation Basketball courts inside for rent starting at $60.00 an hour, a promising venture for sure.
Tower Automotive has had all of the outcropped building razed and the cleanup will now continue in the areas that were largely unable to be accessed, RioTinto Alcan has been working hard to get approvals from MOE and Metrolinx and Min of Health to complete as much of the remediation as is left, though there has been a lot of great progress and soil tests, air quality tests are all showing very small amounts of VOCs all of which are at a very deep level.
The plans to install the barrier underground are proceeding and it looks as if that will be the route most supported by all levels of science.
Castlepoint continues to consult with the resident's along Sterling and Perth and so far they have kept their word about their plans very public and have been proceeding as they had indicated.
A soon to be announced meeting will be happening and I will advise when that will be once the date has been firmed up.
The Spring cleanup which usually takes place around the 3rd week of April should show the area in a whole new light, it is amazing to see the vista without all of the buildings blocking the view, the other side of this is that maybe the participants of the CQB paintball will be less likely to roam the property now that it is all open, and a request has been made to have security night image cameras installed and sensor lighting..so we are hopeful that this will prevent anyone being injured on the site .
This event coincides with the Good Food For All Festival that is happening the same day at The Stop up at the parking lot beside DPNC. Lots of stuff going on for the whole family and the best part is that it is free!!!!
The Lansdowne bike lanes are also mentioned in Adam Giambrone's newsletter that was delivered this week. I don't recall it specifying a date, but it said 2010...
The Bike lanes are shown in recent city docs as saying they will be put in this fall.
no one's heard anything I guess ?
Article is online here:
http://www.insidetoronto.com/news/local/article/873466--new-home-for-boy...
Read the rest at Inside Toronto.
Great, Sally. Can you email us at rail@junctiontriangle.ca and we will be in touch? Thank you!